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Can I upgrade Ram SG125 ?

Hi Guys,

I have device Sophos SG125. and i review RAM usage capacity has reached 85%.

Can I increase the RAM capacity of the Sophos SG125?

CPU 2%

RAM 74% of 3.9 GB

Log Disk 15% of 24.6 GB

Data Disk 28% of 18.7 GB

Thank you,

Adam



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  • If your device meets the criteria above (below?) why not just open it to see what the current memory type is.  According to one wiki I found, the unit uses a atom C2358 cpu.  Per the intel spec page below that should be good for up to 16GB of ddr3 1333mhz ram. It's not specified if its sodimm or regular dimm.

    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/77978/intel-atom-processor-c2358-1m-cache-1-70-ghz/specifications.html

    http://en.techinfodepot.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Sophos_SG_125_rev_2

  • There is RAM specialist vendor who lists modules and specifications datasheets for each per SG model and Revision phs-memory.com / speicher.de Sorry no deeplinks, see BAlfons' remark on ths

    They specify as follows, so we probably do not need to open our boxes. However if you do, it would be interesting to know if they have two modules with 2GB or one module with 4GB.

    Rev.2 has the following specs:

    Device - Specifications

    Device manufacturer Sophos
    Device type Firewall
    Device family Sophos SG
    Device series SG 125 series
    Device name SG 125 rev. 2
    Memory ex works 4GB (1 x 4GB)
    Maximum memory 16GB
    Memory Slots 2

    Computer memory - info

    Memory size 4GB
    Memory technology DDR3
    Memory speed 1600MHz
    JEDEC standard PC3L-12800U
    Rank 1Rx8
    Type UDIMM (Non-ECC unbuffered)
    Number of Pin 240 Pin DIMM
    Voltage 1,35 volt
    Specials -

    whereas the

    Rev.3 has the following specs:

    Device - Specifications

    Device manufacturer Sophos
    Device type Firewall
    Device family Sophos SG
    Device series SG 125 series
    Device name SG 125 rev. 3
    Memory ex works 4GB

    Computer memory - info

    Memory size 4GB
    Memory technology DDR4
    Memory speed 2400MHz
    JEDEC standard PC4-2400T-U
    Type UDIMM (Non-ECC unbuffered)
    Number of Pin 288 Pin DIMM
    Voltage 1,2 volt
    Specials -
  • So order 2 x 8GB off ebay and stick them in. Slight smile

    The SG125 is an old beast and the DDR3 8GB sticks are cheap to be had these days that you can't go wrong. Providing you buy the right spec. 

  • Yeah RAM is dirt cheap these days for these smaller modules.

    My SG is Rev3 and still in use though and I guess just 2GB more would be enough as the 75% RAM usage warnings are annoying. Another 4GB would do the trick for old UTM firmware for sure and reduce swapping. Of course different use case is if somebody wants to re-use it as a server and virtualize some machines.

    I wonder if it could be upgraded to ECC as the underlying barebone seems to support ECC, based on the information the manufacturer is publishing: DNA1160/DNB1160 Again removing hyperlink: nexcom.com/Products/network-and-communication-solutions/cyber-security-solutions/desktop-x86-based-appliance/desktop-x86-based-appliance-dna-1160/Specifications

    And here a small sneak peak into the SG125w Rev3: community.sophos.com/.../mini-pcie-slot-use-on-xg-125-rev-3 It is actually high res if you open the picture in a seperate window.

  • Keep in mind, that Rev3 (with HDMI port) and Rev1/2 (with VGA port) as mentioned above don't share the same spec.
    The earlier revisions are based on the NexGen DNA-1150 with the infamous C2358 and it's AVR54 LPC clock output bug.

  • Firewall's are pretty premative when it comes to speciality stuff. I used to run a pfSense firewall at home on a M400 and prior on the other older WatchGuard stuff, I even got another off brand built in Canada by some company and its hardware was similar. In the end for my home (not my office that uses Sophos) I ended up getting a Unifi UDM-Pro. Since Unifi is made of ex-Apple networking folks you can probably understand their hardware is all speciality stuff! LOL

    My point is you are best to go with the recommend and not try to go off the rails too much, adding ECC would be an off the rails thing. Slight smile

  • I found this older document for technical specs:

    2015 sophos-xg-sg-all-models-tech-specs.pdf

    Mit freundlichem Gruß, best regards from Germany,

    Philipp Rusch

    New Vision GmbH, Germany
    Sophos Silver-Partner

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  • I can tell from my own experience after upgrading an older model SG105 rev.1: this device has a single SO-DIMM in DDR3 technology.

    So I ordered a Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600MHZ (KCP3L16SD8/8) to replace the original 2 GB, worked perfectly.
    This is now our "Lab" firewall to play around with.

    Mit freundlichem Gruß, best regards from Germany,

    Philipp Rusch

    New Vision GmbH, Germany
    Sophos Silver-Partner

    If a post solves your question please use the 'Verify Answer' button.

  • I will do some testing with the Rev. 3 and order Crucial RAM 8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL22 CT8G4DFRA32A 

    It is a 3200Mhz Module, but should be backward compatible with 2400Mhz. I wish I had some ECC modules lying around to test, but I am not buying them on chance.

  • Can anyone verify that on the SG125 Rev 3 it is a Intel Atom C3508 or can tell me if lshw or hwinfo are installed on the UTM for command line?

    If it is a Intel Atom C3508 it would even be only DDR 1866Mhz

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  • Can anyone verify that on the SG125 Rev 3 it is a Intel Atom C3508 or can tell me if lshw or hwinfo are installed on the UTM for command line?

    If it is a Intel Atom C3508 it would even be only DDR 1866Mhz

    Enable SSH in the UTM and do the following:

    • From the Webadmin navigate to Management > System Settings > Shell Access section and enable the shell.
    • Login to the UTM shell using Putty or another SSH client.
    • Set passwords for both loginuser and root users.
    • Login to the shell using the loginuser name.
    • Use the su -- to change to root.
    • From root execute the following commands: 
      • cat /proc/cpuinfo (this confirms the number of installed CPUs). 
    • the output will show the the CPU model
  • Thank you, yes I know, but not really my area. Anyway I did it our of curiosity.

    So the RAM indeed is only clocked at 1866Mhz in alignment with the Atom C3508 at 1600Mhz. So the older 2400Mhz modules does make sense.

  •  Today I installed Crucial RAM 8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL22 CT8G4DFRA32A for the SG125 Rev3 ( According to "lshw -short -C memory" it has DDR4 and clocks them only at 1866Mhz as stated above) and it seems that it just works fine as expected.

    Actually 3200Mhz module was cheaper than older DDR4 2400Mhz modules and they are better than the old specs, but if needed can re-used them somewhere else.

    If somebody does tests with ECC modules please let us know. It would be interesting and so much in line with a 24/7 Firewall/server style and supported by the Atom C3508.

    So hopefully no more swapping or memory warnings.

    Thank you for your support everybody      

  • Great to hear that this works!

    Mit freundlichem Gruß, best regards from Germany,

    Philipp Rusch

    New Vision GmbH, Germany
    Sophos Silver-Partner

    If a post solves your question please use the 'Verify Answer' button.