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Version 9.6.3353 not compatible with Android 8.1.0

FormerMember
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Hello,

 

Last night, I got a notification saying Intercept X for Mobile is not up to date with the latest version (that is 9.6.3353). So I opened Google Play > My apps and games > Updates tab and Sophos is not showing on the list of apps to be updated (both Intercept X and Security & Antivirus Guard).

 

I decided to go to Intercept X > App security > App security issues then tapped the message saying 'New version Sophos Intercept X for Mobile 9.6.3353 available' and it redirected me to the app's page in Google Play. To my surprise, there's a banner there saying 'This app isn't compatible with your device anymore.'

 

I'm not sure why this is happening. I was still able to update my other apps to the latest version last night, so it does not look like Google has dropped support for Android Oreo (yet). An Android version usually reaches end of life just before or after it hits 3 years old, and 8.1.0 isn't quite there yet (still a few months out).

 

Although the virus definitions are still coming through as I got an update less than 8 hours ago (3.79.0:2020070702), it's rather annoying to see Intercept X say my device is 'unsafe.' Anyone have any idea what's going on?



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  • Hi  

    I will check this with my team and shall update you further. Kindly check this retirement calendar for your reference. Would you please suggest what is the device you are using that is currently facing this issue? 

    Shweta

    Community Support Engineer | Sophos Technical Support
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  • FormerMember
    0 FormerMember in reply to Shweta

    Hi  

     

    I checked the retirement calendar you quoted, but I'm not sure what I should find there. My mobile and my tablet, which are both on Android Oreo, have version 9.6.3339 of Intercept X. So those are on the 9.6 branch, which is does not have a maintenance stop nor a support stop date specified.

     

    As for the devices, these are as follows:

    OEM Model Android Patch Level
    MyPhone myA11 8.1.0 August 2019
    Cherry Mobile Aura 3s 8.1.0 September 2018

     

    In case you point out the patch level of my devices, unfortunately that's the way it is for local brands here in the Philippines. You would consider yourself lucky if your device got one OS update from the manufacturer for the entire useful life of the Android version that shipped with it. But it has always been that way and my devices were getting app updates for Intercept X until this problem happened.

     

    I know the devices are getting old, but I'm not scheduled to replace these until Android Oreo's expected end of life, which should be around the last quarter of this year.

     

    Please let me know once you have something. Thanks in advance.

  • Hi there, 

    I have checked this with my global escalation team and it would require an in-depth investigation, hence I would request you to open a support case and PM me the case number. 

    Shweta

    Community Support Engineer | Sophos Technical Support
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  • FormerMember
    0 FormerMember in reply to Shweta

    Hi ,

     

    I initially posted the case number here as a reply but took it down and sent it to you via private message after reading your message for a second time.

  • I also sent my ticket number through a PM.

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    MITE3 Cybersecurity

  • I did not try it yet myself, but you could try manual download and installation: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/sophos-limited/sophos-mobile-security/sophos-mobile-security-9-6-3353-release/

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    MITE3 Cybersecurity

  • FormerMember
    0 FormerMember in reply to mite3cybersec

    Thanks, but I think I'll pass on installing from third-party sources.

     

    I wonder how the investigation is doing though. Their support people actually replied to my ticket saying only paid users can file a case number, so my best guess is my ticket is either dead in the water or automatically closed.

  • Update:

    Your issue has been escalated to our development team with the above reference number. Issues are prioritised based on severity and customer impact. We will discuss your case with development and provide preliminary analysis and next steps by latest end of next week.

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    MITE3 Cybersecurity

  • FormerMember
    0 FormerMember in reply to mite3cybersec

    Sounds like it's getting somewhere now. Thanks for the update! Greatly appreciated.

  • FormerMember
    0 FormerMember in reply to mite3cybersec

    @mite3cybersec, do we have any news by any chance? , perhaps you could help with putting in some pressure with your development team regarding this matter?

  • No real progress. I got a message back that the problem has likely to due with a X86 processor architecture. I replied that I have ARM 32-bit.

    And I also received evasive behavior of Sophos Support, stating that I should contact Google (because Play Store is wrong...). I replied to that that I cannot go to Google, as I do not have support there. In addition, any fix needs to applied by Sophos anyway.

    So, no progress and back to square one I guess.

    Let's wait and see....

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    MITE3 Cybersecurity

  • FormerMember
    0 FormerMember in reply to mite3cybersec

    I am horrified (if not just deeply shocked) with what you said, and I quote:

     

    "...I also received evasive behavior of Sophos Support, stating that I should contact Google..."

     

    As you have said before, your ticket stayed open because you are an authorized partner. But despite the fact, they tried to...blame it on Google? I mean, really? That's an awful treatment of an authorized partner, not to mention a lame excuse. Come on, Sophos, you have to do better than that. I've heard of stories where Dell's call center people immediately blame the antivirus program installed on their customer's computer when something doesn't work, and this evasive behavior you mentioned is not very different from that story.

     

    I did some search on the internet. The Android security bulletin shows the updated AOSP versions still include 8.0 and 8.1, so Oreo is still supported. At the time of this writing, I am unable to find the other material I previously read, but what I recall is that this problem may occur if the app developer published an update at a higher API level. Developers may be interested in doing that if they want to publish app features that will not work in lower API levels. I'm no programmer but I think that pretty much translates to "they raised the minimum required operating system version", so older versions end up becoming incompatible.

     

    What doesn't make sense though is that how come Google still releases updates for its apps under Oreo while Sophos appears to just have dropped it? I just updated Files by Google and Carrier Services yesterday. Upon checking right now, Google Go has an update available and waiting for me to install. I also use other non-Google apps like Firefox Lite and Signal Private Messenger, both of which I was also able to update yesterday. So the question for Sophos still stands: what's going on?

     

    , perhaps you could relay this to your development team? It's very disturbing, especially the kind of behavior witnessed first hand by an authorized partner who is also experiencing the same problem. If Google still makes app updates available to Oreo users, I think it makes sense that you do the same. To the very least, continue to publish updates for Oreo until around the end of the year, which should mark it's third year from date of first release.

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  • FormerMember
    0 FormerMember in reply to mite3cybersec

    I am horrified (if not just deeply shocked) with what you said, and I quote:

     

    "...I also received evasive behavior of Sophos Support, stating that I should contact Google..."

     

    As you have said before, your ticket stayed open because you are an authorized partner. But despite the fact, they tried to...blame it on Google? I mean, really? That's an awful treatment of an authorized partner, not to mention a lame excuse. Come on, Sophos, you have to do better than that. I've heard of stories where Dell's call center people immediately blame the antivirus program installed on their customer's computer when something doesn't work, and this evasive behavior you mentioned is not very different from that story.

     

    I did some search on the internet. The Android security bulletin shows the updated AOSP versions still include 8.0 and 8.1, so Oreo is still supported. At the time of this writing, I am unable to find the other material I previously read, but what I recall is that this problem may occur if the app developer published an update at a higher API level. Developers may be interested in doing that if they want to publish app features that will not work in lower API levels. I'm no programmer but I think that pretty much translates to "they raised the minimum required operating system version", so older versions end up becoming incompatible.

     

    What doesn't make sense though is that how come Google still releases updates for its apps under Oreo while Sophos appears to just have dropped it? I just updated Files by Google and Carrier Services yesterday. Upon checking right now, Google Go has an update available and waiting for me to install. I also use other non-Google apps like Firefox Lite and Signal Private Messenger, both of which I was also able to update yesterday. So the question for Sophos still stands: what's going on?

     

    , perhaps you could relay this to your development team? It's very disturbing, especially the kind of behavior witnessed first hand by an authorized partner who is also experiencing the same problem. If Google still makes app updates available to Oreo users, I think it makes sense that you do the same. To the very least, continue to publish updates for Oreo until around the end of the year, which should mark it's third year from date of first release.

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