Thank you for the info regarding hosts & services - I'm new to the XG interface and it's much different than the UTM's interface - which I have used for more than 10 years... we migrated to XG and it seems to be missing functionality - such as importing lists of domain names (Url Groups) - in UTM I could do that or copy and paste from list ... that is a problem for us.. even renaming a URL group seems to be limited... I had sorted but didn't click on the filter before posting...