XG appliance has no internet but LAN devices do

Hi,

do you have firewall rules in your router that allow the IP address assigned to the XG from your router out?

Ian

Hi and thank you for the suggestion. 

XG has static IP on bridge interface (I think it's required).

The bridge IP 192.168.100.111 is in the same subnet as my gateway 192.168.100.1

The gateway is ARRIS S33 and doesn't have any firewall rules or routing. 

I don't have any firewall rules pointing towards XG on my router because it's downstream from XG.

Is that a correct setup?

Thanks. 

Kindest regards,

Jakub 

Thank you for a response. I provided a network diagram below in response to question from rfcat_vk. 

If I place XG downstream from UDM, wouldn't that leave UDM "exposed"? I baselined this configuration based on other popular setup I see on Reddit: ISP > Modem > pfsense > UDM.

I really don't know, by expertise, what I'm doing here and understand only based at high level thanks to ton of hours browsing this forum.

I created such "open" firewall rule you've mentioned. I also disabled as many "protections" as I could find for this troubleshooting: IPS off, malware off, web filtering off etc.

Just for clarity, my router and the entire LAN has internet, only XG can't access internet as identified itself by lack of ability to update firmware, service patterns, update time via NTP server, or ping to 8.8.8.8, 1.1.1.1 or any other external IP. My concern with this is that I won't be able to update any AntiVirus definitions etc.

What is interesting, in Diagnostic "Policy test" the result is "Accepted" for any of the above DNS IPs or any external IP addresses I've tested.

Ok, this made me try something. 

I added a new XG Port 4 interface as WAN, set it as dynamic IP and connected it to UDM LAN connection (similar to Port 1). Everything else stayed the same as in the diagram.

Port 4 got local 192.168.1.x ip immediately and to my surprise I was now able to Ping through that interface external IP addresses from within Diagnostics, however, firmware update, patterns, clock etc still didn't work.

Also, none of the other ports were able to ping external, only the new Port4. 

LAN under UDM still worked fine so that seemed promising. 

Is such configuration a problem? 

Which interface XG is using for firmware updates etc? If this configure is OK, is there a way to force XG to use Port4 for administrative software updates?

Thank you all for your help. 

If port 4 is your WAN port then that is what the XG will use. You need to check the settings on your UDM as it appears to be blocking the XG from accessing the Sophos update sites.

Ian

Thank you very much for the prompt response. 

There are two WAN ports in this test config:

Port 2 WAN (part of the bridge per diagram above) 

Port 4 WAN port for the test that can ping external ip successfully 

Is XG going to use both, and then fall back to whichever can access external resources with?

I couldn't find any settings that would relate to update. Any suggestion on where to look? 

You will need to setup SD-WAN rules and I am not sure about fallback in bridge mode.

Ian

Folks, it is working!

I've updated the diagram below for someone's future reference.

I've indeed created a SD-WAN route, with all fields as "Any" and Primary gateway pointing towards UDM 192.168.1.1.

Backup gateway None.

Firmware, patterns, clock update just fine. Everything on XG and LAN appear to be working correctly. :-D

On UDM I've all the stats, connection list etc. 

On XG I don't see any Liveuser info but I do see all the Liveconnections, domains, reports etc. so I'm hoping protections are working.

I have one last question. 

Can I remove the Port 4 WAN, make Port 1 WAN and still access Sophos Control center? It'd save me a port on UDM but I'm a little hesitant because if I understand it correctly, I need to then configure some admin services on WAN zone to access Sophos control center? That would then also expose my Bridge-Port2 to outside world as well, correct? Is that a concern?

Thank you everyone. I can't relay how many hours and nights I've spent on this and how helpful your suggestions and information within this larger forum have been. As far as I can tell, this working setup with UDM has not been documented anywhere.

I truly appreciate your patience with me and my newb questions. 

Kindest regards,

Jakub

lol, so maybe something is still broken. Not sure if that's an issue at all but looking at the firewall rules and log, I've no incoming traffic, WAN to LAN at all, only outgoing. I'm not sure why that is, because clearly I've kids streaming movies at the moment, but to my surprise my DHCP Inbound rule has 0GB.

Hi,

all traffic will be on the outgoing rule because the DHCP requested are instated internally. Your inbound rule will not carry traffic.

Ian

Hello,

Since the traffic is not initiated externally but internally, the rule WAN to LAN will not be triggered, that rule will only be triggered according to your rule if traffic is DHCP.

Regards,

Thanks, is there a way to separate the two? 

Meaning, whatever originates from within UDM to go out directly through Bridge as Outgoing rule and only the XG Originating traffic (the updates etc) going through Port 4 to be a part of "internal" traffic?

I'm a bit worried to mess with it a bit as I'm operating by "brute force" try it and see if it works or breaks.

Thank you again, I'm so excited we got this to work. 

Thanks, is there a way to separate the two? 

Meaning, whatever originates from within UDM to go out directly through Bridge as Outgoing rule and only the XG Originating traffic (the updates etc) going through Port 4 to be a part of "internal" traffic?

I'm a bit worried to mess with it a bit as I'm operating by "brute force" try it and see if it works or breaks.

Thank you again, I'm so excited we got this to work.