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Major Sandboxie News: Sandboxie is now a free tool with plans to transition it to an open source tool

Seth Geftic

Sophos is excited to announce that we are making Sandboxie a free tool, with plans to transition it to an open source tool.

This new evolution of Sandboxie is one we are enthusiastic about, but that does not mean this was an easy decision to make.  Sandboxie has never been a significant component of Sophos’ business, and we have been exploring options for its future for a while. 

Frankly, the easiest and least costly decision for Sophos would have been to simply end of life Sandboxie. However, we love the technology too much to see it fade away.  More importantly, we love the Sandboxie community too much to do that. The Sandboxie user base represents some of the most passionate, forward thinking, and knowledgeable members of the security community and we didn’t want to let you down.

After thoughtful consideration we decided that the best way to keep Sandboxie going was to give it back to its users – transitioning it to an open source tool.  We will release more information about the open source project as we continue to work on the details.

Until the open source transition is completed we have decided to make Sandboxie completely free.  We have included a FAQ below with more information. We will continue to update this post as additional details become available. 

 

Sandboxie FAQ

 

How do I get a free license?  What features are included?

Sandboxie currently uses a license key to activate and grant access to premium features only available to paid customers (as opposed to those using a free version).  We have modified the code and have released an updated free version that does not restrict any features.  In other words, the new free license will have access to all the features previously only available to paid customers.

 

What if I have time left on my current Sandboxie license?

Regardless of how much time might be left on your existing Sandboxie license, in order to receive the latest updates customers with currently valid license keys will also need to install the latest unrestricted free version .  This will ensure you have access to all Sandboxie features and are using the most up-to-date version of the product.

 

What if I currently do not have a Sandboxie license?

Simply download the unrestricted, free version. No current or previous license is required.

 

When will Sandboxie be released as open source?

We are investigating making Sandboxie open source, however we are still working through the details and timeline. We will update this FAQ when we know more.

 

What license agreement will apply to my existing, paid licenses?  Will the same agreement apply to the unrestricted, free version that will be made available?

The license agreement under which you originally obtained the paid licenses to Sandboxie will continue to apply to those paid licenses until the expiration of the applicable license term.   A new license agreement will apply to licenses of the new unrestricted, free version of Sandboxie made available for download. 

An update EULA can be found here: https://www.sandboxie.com/EndUserLicenseAgreement

 

Will customer support still be available?

As part of our transition to a free and potentially open source product, Sandboxie support will become community based.  The community will include developers directly involved with Sandboxie.




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  • So Sophos, you bought sandboxie to TERMINATE IT?

    What about the fortune i paid for a lifetime license?

    That was not cheap.

    Who cares if you will make open source after you assassinate this crap that doesnt even work correctly with latest windows updates?

    You bought sandboxie! Then you got hacked, removed the forums and further developement for more than half a year!

    You should not buy a decent working project to terminate it.

    So Sandboxie is not a significant part of your income? THATS BECAUSE YOU DID NOT UPGRADE THE INTERFACE THAT IS STILL ARCAIC.

    Sandboxie is a must have software that beats other similar products.

    WHY THE HELL YOU BUY TO RUIN IT WITH YOUR BAD MANAGEMENT?

  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    First off all, your tone is completley unnaceeptable.

     

    Secondly, Sophos bought Invinvicia (who bought it off the original author TZUK)

     

    Invincia had MANY products, some may have been merged into Sophos products or rebranded. Not all companies IP's that have been bought or merged necesarrily make it to the new company.

     

    Products get retired all the time and lifetime license does not mean they have to support the product for YOUR lifetime but the lifetime of the PRODUCT. Sophos made a business decision that when they bought Invincia they decided they did not want to the sandboxie product.


    They could have at that second removed the program and closed the website and there was nothing you could have done.

    It's like if you buy a product and it's got a 10 year warranty on it and the manufactuer goes bust then that 10 year warranty is not worth the paper it's written on.

     

     

     

     

  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    > 2004. ... from the age of telephone internet dial up

    I don't know under what rock you lived back then....

    already in 2001 I had cable internet with 300k and i had in 2002 DSL with 512k, dial up internet is soooo 1998...

     

    Making a better UI for an existing back end is trivial, see my latest weekend project: https://github.com/DavidXanatos/TaskExplorer

     

    You will not force sophos to give you your money for a life time Licence back, and you will not force them to keep maintaining an economically not viable project.

    Your only chance to see sandboxie live on is it becoming open source and getting maintained by the community.

    Sandboxie always was a niche, and imho always will be, users are dumb they want simple solutions like BS AntiVirus/inernet security suites that do the thinking for them, not advanced tools that require configuration and thinking and taking responsibility for once own security.

     

    Sandboxie is a tool for experts and as such will always be only relevant to a minority of users.

     

    If you want Sandboxie to have at least a chance for a future I would suggest you quit wining and leave the subject.

  • in reply to David Xanatos

    David Xanatos said:

    > 2004. ... from the age of telephone internet dial up

    I don't know under what rock you lived back then....

    already in 2001 I had cable internet with 300k and i had in 2002 DSL with 512k, dial up internet is soooo 1998...

     

    Like i said, no point talking to leftists.

    https://www.pewinternet.org/chart/broadband-vs-dial-up-adoption-over-time/

    As you can see... IN USA, broadband only passed dial up in numbers after 2005.

    And even if you WERE RIGHT, that does not change my point kid.

    When someone thinks that correcting a data error makes them take down the main argument...

    It is someone that knows nothing about syllogism. Well, you corrected wrongly anyway. Time to go back to Bobby's World...

    So, 2004 WAS dial up age. Understood? Period.

    What you said? Is just an argumentation error of low iq people.

    Dicto Simpliciter - Secundum Quid. It is to destroy the general rule using an isolated example.

    https://www2.palomar.edu/users/bthompson/Secundum%20Quid.html

    You just confirmed what i said, it is EASY to change interface. And THAT is the first thing they should do and didnt do with the project they bought.

    Bad management. Mr Peter LAMMER bought too many companies and did not allocate people correctly to the projects.

    The homepage presents NOTHING about the product. They did not even chang the 2004 drawings about how it works. Worst, they removed.

    https://www.sandboxie.com/HowItWorks

    Show me ONE, JUST ONE 2019 product that has the same presentation as 2004 in the marketing giving profit.

    That is a 2004 solo programmer presentation made in PAINT.EXE about his great work. Not some product presentation and interface to be in market by a huge company 15 years later.

    If i offer 50 bucks for a kid in discord to make a page in wix.com for sandboxie, in a few hours i would have something 10 times better than that.

    PERIOD. If you say they didnt kill the product with bad management you have a 2 digits IQ.

  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    Trolls feed is the attention they get (just see after some responded reasonably to his post how much more and more he wrote). But I have to admit you even make it difficult for me not to respond. Although there is seriously not even one line of your post that is not nonsense (indeed difficult to achieve in such a long post) that is not screaming for a respond I will keep this as short as it can get

    Lifetime license my sweet law angel is about the lifetime of the product not yours...
    And from the terms of the lifetime license you describe (and may also, not so legally, financially exploit with your 'group') it seems you had paid for it before changing the lifetime license terms so from the very early beginning. Your 1st line on your 1st post: "What about the fortune i paid for a lifetime license"
    For the 'kids' here the license back then was in the range of $10........
    (perhaps what you wanted to say was What about the fortune I illegally earned by exploiting the $10 lifetime license I bought more than a decade ago??)

    You are good but you will not succeed make me respond back to you again
    Long live the trolls!

  • in reply to Argos A
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  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    OMG ~ just read the EULA that you agreed to, at the time.  

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  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    OMG ~ just read the EULA that you agreed to, at the time.  

  • in reply to bj m

    bj m said:

    OMG ~ just read the EULA that you agreed to, at the time.  

     

    Any clause about one part alone abandoning his obligations in middle of contract period without penalty is NULL.
    Any clause about one part alone abandoning his obligations in middle of contract period without penalty is NULL.
    Any clause about one part alone abandoning his obligations in middle of contract period without penalty is NULL.

     

  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    and the EULA that You agreed to, at the time.... is the Agreement that stands between the Author and You.... until if/when You agree to the current EULA between the Author and You. 

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  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    Okay, and the EULA that I greed to, at the time.... is the Agreement that stands between the Author and Me.... until if/when I agree to the current EULA between the Author and Me. 

    Um, what's your end game?
    Um, what's your objective? 

    Um, how will you know when you've achieved your end game objectives? 

  • in reply to bj m

    bj m said:

    Okay, and the EULA that I greed to, at the time.... is the Agreement that stands between the Author and Me.... until if/when I agree to the current EULA between the Author and Me. 

    Um, what's your end game?
    Um, what's your objective? 

    Um, how will you know when you've achieved your end game objectives? 

     

     
    Paste what you are talking about in EULA, to begin with, KID.
    lol
    My brother is a lawyer, he is laughing about you now.
    People without legal knowledge should not manifest opinion on technical discussions like you did.
    Where did you study the law? On netflix? rofl.
     
    It is easier to explain to a dog what is a null clause than to you. (A NULL CLAUSE YOU DID NOT EVEN FIND TO POST HERE, ASSUMING IT EXISTS LOL).
    How can someone argue a clause he did not even posted here? LOOOOL
    My "end game"? Posting about a company that is disrespecting the users rights in their forum.
     
    And YOUR end game?
    As a consumer, to fight to dispose of rights you do have with nonsense arguments??
    Or a damage control as a sophos employee responsible for this mess and bad project management?
     
    Just wait my video about sophos. I printed all, and i hope someone higher check your ip after the noisa ima make.
    Your whining is just making things worst.
     
    I will dedicate a lot of time to state how sophos managed to ruin one of the best softwares windows had.
    And how that bad management of the company affects OTHER SECURITY SOFTWARES they own.
    Then i will cite dozens of examples of sophos fails, specially in how to deal with those fails, like telling people to downgrade windows security patches.
     
    I make my part for a better world.
    If you want me to believe you are someone stupid enough to fight against your own rights with those crap dreaming arguments...
    Well, not me.
     
    I really want the name of the person responsible for ruining sandboxie with his incompetence and bad management.
    And the other one that analyzed they could end their work in middle of contractual period not losing money.
     
    Just want this person to go to a job he deserves, like cutting grass on gardens, singing a democrat anthem.
     
    Let me tell you what will happen with 500k subscribers. Ima get more views than subscribers over time.
    When you paste SOPHOS in google, the video result showing first will be my video.
     
    I am done here.
    You and your "gamer gurlz" collored hair inclusive team keep your damage control.
     
    If you failed that bad in your job, imagine in the damage control.
    You just made things worst, ima dedicate some weeks to prepare a great material about you.
     
     
  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    Okay, so maybe you have not re-read nor understand the EULA that you agreed to, at the time.   

    Okay, I won't be cheering your position.

    Okay, I'm happy with Sandboxie.  

    Just me.

    Good luck with your end game objectives, what ever they are.  

    Regards w Respect

  • in reply to bj m

    bj m said:

    Okay, so maybe you have not re-read nor understand the EULA that you agreed to, at the time.   

    Okay, I won't be cheering your position.

    Okay, I'm happy with Sandboxie.  

    Just me.

    Good luck with your end game objectives, what ever they are.  

    Regards w Respect

     

     
    Only way to discuss with a leftist is with a gun. He keeps repeating his nonsense about "agree to eula" or "endgame".
    What i did notice is you are same person with more accounts, for the way you type.
     
    Lets end this here with one phrase:
    No part can, no matter what, terminate a monetary periodic PRE PAID contract single sided with no penalties.
     
    Does not matter what their EULA states.
    If you enter a law school, and not netflix, you will learn that in the first 6 months.
     
    Bye. And do not comment that crap anymore.
     
  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    Okay, so "No part can, no matter what, terminate a monetary periodic contract single sided with no penalties". 

    So, you want penalties?   

  • in reply to carl COBAIN

    You talk a lot, and I mean a LOT, but you don't really say anything. So you bought a lifetime license. Well, the life of Sandboxie is now over, and so is your license. However, you can still use the software. For the rest of your life, if you so choose. Just don't update anything on your machine. Sandboxie will work like it always has. Sophos is not preventing you from using it. And if you are complaining about the lack of support, read the EULA you agreed to. There is no guarantee of support of any kind.

    Otherwise, why don't you get with your attorney and see if they can sue to get your $29 back. Until then, please STFU. Dealing with Sophos nonsense is bad enough. You are just making it worse.

  • in reply to Bite Me1

    Bite Me1 said:

    Otherwise, why don't you get with your attorney and see if they can sue to get your $29 back. Until then, please STFU. Dealing with Sophos nonsense is bad enough. You are just making it worse.

    Thank you, you saved me from trying to search the exact amount I paid which I even doubt I still have somewhere from so long ago (although it might be a little lower because I purchased it in the 1st years and if I remember correctly it got some increases the following years)

     

    @

    I have a question, it's a little irrelative with the subject so I apologize but it might give me some answers on why sandboxie is not profitable (and perhaps others are interested of it as well). Was there some type of lifetime license that allowed the owner to resell it as someone here implied?

  • in reply to Argos A

    @Argos A  I can't get into the financials around Sandboxie.  However, I can say that the idea of reselling lifetime licenses that you refer to is not something that I ever heard discussed internally. 

  • in reply to Seth Geftic

    Will you ever tell us what actually happened to the other forum? In the previous updates you said the problems were not only technical. Now that you're going to make Sandboxie open source I don't see what reasons would you have to keep certain things private. Are there other parties involved?

    Also, I'm still curious to know why you made this forum private, requiring users to log in even just to read it.

  • in reply to Vivaldo Sagese

    The other forum is from a different owner, uses different software and a different host, why would the new owner want to maintain two separate forums? No one would want this.

     

    And these forums are not blocked in any way. I can access this very post from my phone or any other device I have which are not logged into. You keep spewing this, so maybe update your bookmarks to the proper url, or learn how your adblockers/umatrix/whatever work and how they can break sites before blaming others, because this is not an issue anyone else is having but you.

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