Major Sandboxie News: Sandboxie is now a free tool with plans to transition it to an open source tool

So Sophos, you bought sandboxie to TERMINATE IT?

What about the fortune i paid for a lifetime license?

That was not cheap.

Who cares if you will make open source after you assassinate this crap that doesnt even work correctly with latest windows updates?

You bought sandboxie! Then you got hacked, removed the forums and further developement for more than half a year!

You should not buy a decent working project to terminate it.

So Sandboxie is not a significant part of your income? THATS BECAUSE YOU DID NOT UPGRADE THE INTERFACE THAT IS STILL ARCAIC.

Sandboxie is a must have software that beats other similar products.

WHY THE HELL YOU BUY TO RUIN IT WITH YOUR BAD MANAGEMENT?

First off all, your tone is completley unnaceeptable.

Secondly, Sophos bought Invinvicia (who bought it off the original author TZUK)

Invincia had MANY products, some may have been merged into Sophos products or rebranded. Not all companies IP's that have been bought or merged necesarrily make it to the new company.

Products get retired all the time and lifetime license does not mean they have to support the product for YOUR lifetime but the lifetime of the PRODUCT. Sophos made a business decision that when they bought Invincia they decided they did not want to the sandboxie product.

They could have at that second removed the program and closed the website and there was nothing you could have done.

It's like if you buy a product and it's got a 10 year warranty on it and the manufactuer goes bust then that 10 year warranty is not worth the paper it's written on.

sand boxie2 said:

First off all, your tone is completley unnaceeptable.

 

Secondly, Sophos bought Invinvicia (who bought it off the original author TZUK)

 

Invincia had MANY products, some may have been merged into Sophos products or rebranded. Not all companies IP's that have been bought or merged necesarrily make it to the new company.

 

Products get retired all the time and lifetime license does not mean they have to support the product for YOUR lifetime but the lifetime of the PRODUCT. Sophos made a business decision that when they bought Invincia they decided they did not want to the sandboxie product.

They could have at that second removed the program and closed the website and there was nothing you could have done.

It's like if you buy a product and it's got a 10 year warranty on it and the manufactuer goes bust then that 10 year warranty is not worth the paper it's written on.

 

Noone got busted, kid. And we are not talking about warranty.

Sophos is not bankrupted, and i hope EVERYONE HERE KNOWS that you can demand refund.

It seems i see only marxist people answering me, people that were alphabetized using social-construct method that makes them unable to think with logic.

Sophos did buy a gold product that was raised with some lifetime licenses, it is a must have software. After some discussion in my group, we made a question about if they had to chose between sandboxie and an antivirus, 80% of votes chose to have sandboxie only.

It does beat Comodo and similars.

The question is: DID THE COMPANY BROKE? IS IT BANKRUPTED?

If the answer is no, they must return all values paid to them.

It is independent of marxists "own opinion". It is logical and it is a legal contractual right.

Even on STEAM GAMES, lets say, RUST, people that did play 5 years are getting full refunded because they dropped support for linux and did stop selling to that OS.

They paid hoping to have forever. If the owner removes that from them, must pay, unless they bankrupt and cant pay.

A lifetime license is more than that.

They must pay even people that got screwed because of their bad management getting hacked, removing the activation from people that paid, even when they posted "it is all right, download here on forum links to activate" and that didnt work...

Sophos is probably one of those companies that went leftist and because of that, ruined all their actions and profit, since all leftist people are worried about politically correct and not about results. They worry about HOW you spoke and not WHAT you spoke.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/20/sophos_microsoft_patch_tuesday_boot_hang/

Look. Same thing they did with sandboxie. Irresponsibly telling users to downgrade satefy upgrades.

What about this? Muslin named people that bought products can not download? WHAT???

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/07/sophos_anti_muslim_name_filter/

Well, i dont like muslims, but i must say, that is too much even for dealing with them.

We all saw how they removed sandboxie from the page, in an amateur way, moved the forums, and gave no satisfaction about what was happening for months.

How can a huge company do that? Because of MAD MANAGEMENT. Period.

So, i am not trolling, leftist kids.

I am speaking about legal rights.

To the guy that spoke about "oh i can make now a great interface".... This is analphabetism too.

I said that software keeps evolving, it was an indie one, made by one person, and a sucessfull one. What is to be expected is a huge company, after buying, improve things like interface. Update it. THAT IS GOOD PROJECT MANAGEMENT. If you do not do that for more than 15 years, of course, without improving anything, program dies. Most of you kids did not even know sandboxie is from 2004. 15 years without interface improvement? You keep developing a software made from um lonely guy from the age of telephone internet dial up and do not improve GUI functionality? That is BAD MANAGEMENT. Of course without that, profit will sink. People want easiness of use. I did not ask if a random guy will improve the gui with an open source code. If he cant even understand the logic in arguments, and responding something that has nothing to do with what i said, he wont be able. I did not pay YOU kid, believing in your project. Sophos could get tons of money if they had good management.

Even in linux forums, you can find people saying they wont install linux being a "deal breaker" if they do not have a sandboxie similar solution.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/search.php?keywords=sandboxie

Try to search for ANY similar product in any linux forums. Linux users that lives insulting windows complaining they have no similar acceptable solution for a decade.

In all internet, when you search about sandbox products, sandboxie is in number one place.

All other huge companies that puts big teams developing similar things didnt reach sandboxie sucess.

So, it is, NO DOUBT, BAD MANAGEMENT.

So sophos, are you broke? No? So you must pay everyone.

You must pay people that bought anual licenses, since you did not even plan to finish, you just got hacked and decided you woudnt spend money fixing not even the paying system and downloads. If things were like this in real world, tell me wich company would present fast fixes? They woudnt need it.

Noone is trolling here, kids.

Plus, i have more than 500 k subscribers, i have more people listening to me than most of you have people on your cities.

I will just make a video showing why people must never buy anything from sophos, and you will see the reason why you must respect consumers. It is not because of some small number of people sueing you. If it because of value of company mark and name.

Be sure i will profit more with this video than my license value, and you will lose a lot more than giving people back their money.

You will learn about company posture. Something you do not have and that will sink you.

sand boxie2 said:

First off all, your tone is completley unnaceeptable.

 

Secondly, Sophos bought Invinvicia (who bought it off the original author TZUK)

 

Invincia had MANY products, some may have been merged into Sophos products or rebranded. Not all companies IP's that have been bought or merged necesarrily make it to the new company.

 

Products get retired all the time and lifetime license does not mean they have to support the product for YOUR lifetime but the lifetime of the PRODUCT. Sophos made a business decision that when they bought Invincia they decided they did not want to the sandboxie product.

They could have at that second removed the program and closed the website and there was nothing you could have done.

It's like if you buy a product and it's got a 10 year warranty on it and the manufactuer goes bust then that 10 year warranty is not worth the paper it's written on.

 

Noone got busted, kid. And we are not talking about warranty.

Sophos is not bankrupted, and i hope EVERYONE HERE KNOWS that you can demand refund.

It seems i see only marxist people answering me, people that were alphabetized using social-construct method that makes them unable to think with logic.

Sophos did buy a gold product that was raised with some lifetime licenses, it is a must have software. After some discussion in my group, we made a question about if they had to chose between sandboxie and an antivirus, 80% of votes chose to have sandboxie only.

It does beat Comodo and similars.

The question is: DID THE COMPANY BROKE? IS IT BANKRUPTED?

If the answer is no, they must return all values paid to them.

It is independent of marxists "own opinion". It is logical and it is a legal contractual right.

Even on STEAM GAMES, lets say, RUST, people that did play 5 years are getting full refunded because they dropped support for linux and did stop selling to that OS.

They paid hoping to have forever. If the owner removes that from them, must pay, unless they bankrupt and cant pay.

A lifetime license is more than that.

They must pay even people that got screwed because of their bad management getting hacked, removing the activation from people that paid, even when they posted "it is all right, download here on forum links to activate" and that didnt work...

Sophos is probably one of those companies that went leftist and because of that, ruined all their actions and profit, since all leftist people are worried about politically correct and not about results. They worry about HOW you spoke and not WHAT you spoke.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/05/20/sophos_microsoft_patch_tuesday_boot_hang/

Look. Same thing they did with sandboxie. Irresponsibly telling users to downgrade satefy upgrades.

What about this? Muslin named people that bought products can not download? WHAT???

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/07/sophos_anti_muslim_name_filter/

Well, i dont like muslims, but i must say, that is too much even for dealing with them.

We all saw how they removed sandboxie from the page, in an amateur way, moved the forums, and gave no satisfaction about what was happening for months.

How can a huge company do that? Because of MAD MANAGEMENT. Period.

So, i am not trolling, leftist kids.

I am speaking about legal rights.

To the guy that spoke about "oh i can make now a great interface".... This is analphabetism too.

I said that software keeps evolving, it was an indie one, made by one person, and a sucessfull one. What is to be expected is a huge company, after buying, improve things like interface. Update it. THAT IS GOOD PROJECT MANAGEMENT. If you do not do that for more than 15 years, of course, without improving anything, program dies. Most of you kids did not even know sandboxie is from 2004. 15 years without interface improvement? You keep developing a software made from um lonely guy from the age of telephone internet dial up and do not improve GUI functionality? That is BAD MANAGEMENT. Of course without that, profit will sink. People want easiness of use. I did not ask if a random guy will improve the gui with an open source code. If he cant even understand the logic in arguments, and responding something that has nothing to do with what i said, he wont be able. I did not pay YOU kid, believing in your project. Sophos could get tons of money if they had good management.

Even in linux forums, you can find people saying they wont install linux being a "deal breaker" if they do not have a sandboxie similar solution.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/search.php?keywords=sandboxie

Try to search for ANY similar product in any linux forums. Linux users that lives insulting windows complaining they have no similar acceptable solution for a decade.

In all internet, when you search about sandbox products, sandboxie is in number one place.

All other huge companies that puts big teams developing similar things didnt reach sandboxie sucess.

So, it is, NO DOUBT, BAD MANAGEMENT.

So sophos, are you broke? No? So you must pay everyone.

You must pay people that bought anual licenses, since you did not even plan to finish, you just got hacked and decided you woudnt spend money fixing not even the paying system and downloads. If things were like this in real world, tell me wich company would present fast fixes? They woudnt need it.

Noone is trolling here, kids.

Plus, i have more than 500 k subscribers, i have more people listening to me than most of you have people on your cities.

I will just make a video showing why people must never buy anything from sophos, and you will see the reason why you must respect consumers. It is not because of some small number of people sueing you. If it because of value of company mark and name.

Be sure i will profit more with this video than my license value, and you will lose a lot more than giving people back their money.

You will learn about company posture. Something you do not have and that will sink you.

> 2004. ... from the age of telephone internet dial up

I don't know under what rock you lived back then....

already in 2001 I had cable internet with 300k and i had in 2002 DSL with 512k, dial up internet is soooo 1998...

Making a better UI for an existing back end is trivial, see my latest weekend project: https://github.com/DavidXanatos/TaskExplorer

You will not force sophos to give you your money for a life time Licence back, and you will not force them to keep maintaining an economically not viable project.

Your only chance to see sandboxie live on is it becoming open source and getting maintained by the community.

Sandboxie always was a niche, and imho always will be, users are dumb they want simple solutions like BS AntiVirus/inernet security suites that do the thinking for them, not advanced tools that require configuration and thinking and taking responsibility for once own security.

Sandboxie is a tool for experts and as such will always be only relevant to a minority of users.

If you want Sandboxie to have at least a chance for a future I would suggest you quit wining and leave the subject.

David Xanatos said:

> 2004. ... from the age of telephone internet dial up

I don't know under what rock you lived back then....

already in 2001 I had cable internet with 300k and i had in 2002 DSL with 512k, dial up internet is soooo 1998...

 

Like i said, no point talking to leftists.

https://www.pewinternet.org/chart/broadband-vs-dial-up-adoption-over-time/

As you can see... IN USA, broadband only passed dial up in numbers after 2005.

And even if you WERE RIGHT, that does not change my point kid.

When someone thinks that correcting a data error makes them take down the main argument...

It is someone that knows nothing about syllogism. Well, you corrected wrongly anyway. Time to go back to Bobby's World...

So, 2004 WAS dial up age. Understood? Period.

What you said? Is just an argumentation error of low iq people.

Dicto Simpliciter - Secundum Quid. It is to destroy the general rule using an isolated example.

https://www2.palomar.edu/users/bthompson/Secundum%20Quid.html

You just confirmed what i said, it is EASY to change interface. And THAT is the first thing they should do and didnt do with the project they bought.

Bad management. Mr Peter LAMMER bought too many companies and did not allocate people correctly to the projects.

The homepage presents NOTHING about the product. They did not even chang the 2004 drawings about how it works. Worst, they removed.

https://www.sandboxie.com/HowItWorks

Show me ONE, JUST ONE 2019 product that has the same presentation as 2004 in the marketing giving profit.

That is a 2004 solo programmer presentation made in PAINT.EXE about his great work. Not some product presentation and interface to be in market by a huge company 15 years later.

If i offer 50 bucks for a kid in discord to make a page in wix.com for sandboxie, in a few hours i would have something 10 times better than that.

PERIOD. If you say they didnt kill the product with bad management you have a 2 digits IQ.

Trolls feed is the attention they get (just see after some responded reasonably to his post how much more and more he wrote). But I have to admit you even make it difficult for me not to respond. Although there is seriously not even one line of your post that is not nonsense (indeed difficult to achieve in such a long post) that is not screaming for a respond I will keep this as short as it can get

Lifetime license my sweet law angel is about the lifetime of the product not yours...
And from the terms of the lifetime license you describe (and may also, not so legally, financially exploit with your 'group') it seems you had paid for it before changing the lifetime license terms so from the very early beginning. Your 1st line on your 1st post: "What about the fortune i paid for a lifetime license"
For the 'kids' here the license back then was in the range of $10........
(perhaps what you wanted to say was What about the fortune I illegally earned by exploiting the $10 lifetime license I bought more than a decade ago??)

You are good but you will not succeed make me respond back to you again
Long live the trolls!

OMG ~ just read the EULA that you agreed to, at the time.  

OMG ~ just read the EULA that you agreed to, at the time.  

bj m said:

OMG ~ just read the EULA that you agreed to, at the time.  

 

and the EULA that You agreed to, at the time.... is the Agreement that stands between the Author and You.... until if/when You agree to the current EULA between the Author and You.