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Site-to-Site RED tunnel not working

Hi,

I'm having the hardest time setting up a Site-to-Site RED tunnel between two SG230 appliances.

I'm trying to establish a tunnel between our main site (subnet 10.0.0.0/16) and our remote site (subnet 10.3.0.0/16).

I was following the steps from the tutotial located at

https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/120157

and was able to get the RED-tunnel up.

However, setting the static routes as described in the howto does not work unfortunately, no traffic seems to pass between both UTMs.

I've defined the reds2 Interface on the main site UTM with the ip adress 192.168.200.1 (We have another RED tunnel to a RED15 appliance at another branch Office, which is why the server Interface is named reds2) and the redc1 Interface on the remote site with the ip adress 192.168.200.2.

At this Point, shouldn't I be able to ping both RED endpoints from either UTM? At the Moment, I'm unable to get any pings across.

Any help would be appreciated!

Dominik



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  • Hi Dominik,

    To my knowledge, once a tunnel is setup, traffic between two UTMs becomes purely a matter of routing and firewall rules. Can you verify that you configured RED (Network) in the Gateway route definition instead of RED (Address).

    Thanks

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  • Hi,

    thanks for answering!

    I'm pretty sure it had something to do with routing, but I couldn't get it to work.

    I decided to scratch the RED setup and instead, went ahead and established a SSL-VPN Site-to-Site tunnel...lo and behold, everything worked right from the get-go.

    So I couldn't solve the original problem, but since Sohps UTM is crazy flexible you usually find a solution that works [:)]

    Thanks anyway!

  • Done... And guess what? Still nothing :-)

    Btw. one of my firewall rules is LAN - any - any   allow, currently on both sites, because i dont know what else to try...and firewall is telling just nothing...just dropping some WAN traffic.

    One more thing im thinking about is that Site 1 subnet is behind RED50, but that should be not an issue, because from Site 2 UTM/Tools im able to ping that remote subnet 10.10.1.0/24 and servers in it...

  • Result...

    It is connected over 4G so the ping time is appropriate :-)

  • Just to make sure, you are using the UTM's as default gateway at both sides for the clients you are using in the ping test do you?


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  • Off course i do,you can see that on my last screenshot where is also ipconfig in window, im managing quite big company network so in basic settings there is absolutely no problem...

  • This is a long thread, so you all may well already have discussed the fact that ICMP/ping is not included in the "Any" service.  Do specific rules allowing ping between the subnets resolve this mystery?

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • Hi Bob,

    ping is included in fw rule,as it is on screenshots,also tried rule only for ping...

    To the hell with ping, but nothing is working, RDP, SSH,FTP...

    Bob should i be able to ping from client on both RED interfaces? I mean virtual iface on both sites...? The local one im able to ping,so internal routing works,but not remote...

    From UTM/Support/Tools/ping it works fine to ping everywhere...

  • I'll take a look at the pictures you posted, but, based on your last post, I wonder if there aren't routing problems outside the UTM.  What happens if you make a masq rule like 'Semily RED subnet -> LAN' in one UTM and a corresponding rule in the other?

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • Hi Bob,

    i tryied masq also like Semily subnet -> LAN and Semily subnet -> local RED interface...

    Nothing...

    Tracing route to 10.10.1.56 over a maximum of 30 hops

      1     2 ms     1 ms     3 ms  192.168.6.1
      2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      3     *        *        *     Request timed out.

  • You're using different network objects in the routes and firewall rules.  Is the problem that you need two firewall rules for traffic from the LAN to the remote subnet: one in the server side allowing traffic from the LAN to the remote subnet and one on the client that allows traffic from the server-side LAN to the client-side subnet.  In fact, before you do that, you should see blocks in the Firewall Live Log if this is the problem.

    If you still haven't solved the problem, Please make a diagram for us, including IPs and subnets.

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • I tryied so many combinations in firewall rules that i almost cant count them all.

    Im going to draw a diagram, by hand, ill post it in few minutes...

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  • What/where is 192.168.5.251?  It's not on your diagram.

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • Hi Bob,

    at the beginning i wrote that i tested it from another UTM where i made same RED tunnel and 192.168.5.251 is Windows 2012 server running behind my second UTM :-)

    Because behind UTM with 192.168.6.0/24 i have during work day no running server or client from which i can do test :-)

  • OK Vitek,

    It looks like the UTM with the reds6 interface is receiving the responses from the device being pinged, but it isn't forwarding the replies back through the red*15 tunnel.  If there are no drops in the firewall log at that time, then the issue should be visible in the routing table.  What do you get from the following on the UTM with the reds6 interface?

    cc support_tools routing_table|grep 192.168.5

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • This:

    utm:/home/login # cc support_tools routing_table|grep 192.168.5
              '192.168.5.0/24 dev eth1  proto ipsec  scope link  src 10.20.1.1
              '192.168.5.0/24 via 10.40.1.2 dev reds15  proto static  metric 5
              '192.168.50.0/24 via 10.237.5.27 dev eth2  proto zebra
              '192.168.51.0/24 via 10.237.5.27 dev eth2  proto zebra
              '192.168.53.0/24 via 10.237.5.27 dev eth2  proto zebra
              '192.168.56.0/24 via 10.237.5.27 dev eth2  proto zebra

     

    subnet 50,51,53,56 via 10.237.5.27 are subnets in MPLS, 10.237.5.27 is BGP Neighbour, so they have nothing to do with that...

     

    The first one 192.168.5.0 dev eth1 was IPsec tunnel to VoIP subnet, it is disabled now and not present anymore...

     

    Vitek

  •      '192.168.5.0/24 via 10.40.1.2 dev reds15  proto static  metric 5

    Is that 40 correct for redc15?  It seems it would be based on the first tcpdumps.

    "The first one 192.168.5.0 dev eth1 was IPsec tunnel to VoIP subnet, it is disabled now and not present anymore..." - So, was that the solution to the problem?

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • Yes, subnet 192.168.5.0/24 is the second home ed. at my parrents and there is 10.40.1.2

     

    Right now im again at 192.168.6.0/24 with 10.30.1.2.

     

    Ill try to do tcpdump also from here.

     

    IPsec tunnel was not the problem, still same result :-(

  • Last thing i did...

    Restarted client UTMs, still same...

    Restarted Server UTM...RED tunnels are working, WTF?

  • Whoopee!  Glad you got it!

    Three months and no one here mentioned that?  We all have egg on our faces here!

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • Vitek,

    The more I think about it, the more strongly I feel that you should be running the central UTM with a Hot-Standby.  Maybe the other site(s), too.  You should discuss this with your reseller.

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • It is HA...

     

    This drives me crazy...Why it needed reboot...? week of time spent on this crap...