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Sophos UTM - IPv4/IPv6 Issue - IPSec

Sophos User438

Hi guys,

I have searched myself silly and dont get anywhere, so I come before you.

 

A little preface:

We are a small group of companies (headquarter/main company and 2 daughtercompanies/branches). There are 2 IPSec Site-2-Site tunnels established between the two branches and the headquarter (we, the HQ, are on respond since the branches dont have static IP's yet) - they work on a RDS/Terminalserver in our infrastructure.

We have just the worst WAN connection (Vodafone cable) - atrocious. Its on and off again - major disruptions etc. We are so remote that we dont have any alternatives like fiber (the DSL connection is solely for our VPN connection to the hosted cloud VoIP PBX of Deutsche Telekom), so we are stuck with Vodafone. It wasnt always as bad as now, but I have to provide redundancies now since 3 companies are affected.

I asked our mobile provider for a data plan and they can offer me a LTE data plan with a static, public IPv6 address. According to the sales rep I spoke to, it will allow incoming connections as well, but I need to verify with one of their technicians directly - lets assume it is.


I planned something like this:

 

I really dont want to establish a full blown IPv6 network in parallel to the IPv4. I saw here and there some blog posts and comments on the net (and Sophos forum) explaining the translation of IPv6 traffic to IPv4 and vice versa. 

How would I realise that on the UTM? With a DNAT rule?

Im eternally grateful for any input.

Thanks!



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    Hallo and welcome to the UTM Community!

    I'm not familiar with the Mikrotik - can it do IPv6-to-IPv4?  Do you have UTMs in the branches, or are these other brands?

    Cheers - Bob

     
    Sophos UTM Community Moderator
    Sophos Certified Architect - UTM
    Sophos Certified Engineer - XG
    Gold Solution Partner since 2005
    MediaSoft, Inc. USA
  • 0 in reply to BAlfson

    Hi Bob!

    Thanks for the reply - almost lost hope :)

     

    Sorry, should have been more clear on that:

     

    Main office: SG135 UTM

    Branch1: SG125 UTM

    Branch2: SG115 UTM

     

    The Mikrotik antenna has the so called "routerOS", but I activated the passthrough mode (similar to the bridge mode on a router), so the Mikrotik only uses the built-in LTE modem to forward the public IP - this has been tested and confirmed by me.

     

    Thanks and best regards

     

    Constantin

  • 0 in reply to BAlfson

    Hey Bob,

    I activated the Path MTU Discovery on the Remote Gateways in both UTMs. It did not help at all. When the IPv6 tunnel is up, no pings are going through - I just get timeouts. I thought it might be something with the packetfilter, but the automatic firewall rules are activated on both sides. I did create the IPv6 tunnel the same way than its IPv4 counterpart and the working RDP connection is proof that there is nothing in the way.

    How could I zero in on this problem? Do we have to tcpdump on eth7? Im not sure what else I could check. 

    Thanks and best regards,

    Constantin

  • 0 in reply to Sophos User438

    Hint: maybe it would be much more simple/reliable when not using LTE on BOTH ends?

    What was the reason for doing it like this?

    Mit freundlichem Gruß, best regards from Germany,

    Philipp Rusch

    New Vision GmbH, Germany
    Sophos Silver-Partner

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  • 0 in reply to PhilippRusch

    Hi Philipp,

    did you not read my earlier reply? Only on our end (headquarters) is the LTE antenna. In Branch1 one is, as I said before, a regular DSL connection.

     

    Best regards,

    Constantin

  • 0 in reply to Sophos User438

    OK - I see!

    Mit freundlichem Gruß, best regards from Germany,

    Philipp Rusch

    New Vision GmbH, Germany
    Sophos Silver-Partner

    If a post solves your question please use the 'Verify Answer' button.

  • 0 in reply to Sophos User438

    Did you check the firewall log, Constantin, to see if pings are blocked there?  If they are, see #2 in Rulz (last updated 2019-04-17).

    Cheers - Bob

     
    Sophos UTM Community Moderator
    Sophos Certified Architect - UTM
    Sophos Certified Engineer - XG
    Gold Solution Partner since 2005
    MediaSoft, Inc. USA
  • 0 in reply to BAlfson

    Hey Bob,

    I observed on both sides the Live Log of the firewall and there are no drops of any kind when I try to ping (I also turned off IPS and ATP), only timout:

     

     

    Not sure what else we could do. Can we listen "inside" the tunnel with tcpdump? So we know that the ping at least went into the tunnel?

    Thanks and best regards,

    Constantin

     

  • 0 in reply to Sophos User438

    First, we need the REF_ of the tunnel.  If "Branch 1" is the name of the IPsec Connection, which we can find with:

    cc get_object_by_name ipsec_connection site_to_site 'Branch 1'|grep \'ref

    That will return something like REF_IpsSitBranch1.

    To watch the traffic in the tunnel:

    espdump -n --conn REF_IpsSitBranch1 -vv

    Cheers - Bob

     
    Sophos UTM Community Moderator
    Sophos Certified Architect - UTM
    Sophos Certified Engineer - XG
    Gold Solution Partner since 2005
    MediaSoft, Inc. USA
  • 0 in reply to BAlfson

    Hey Bob,

    now Im really confused. The ping clearly goes into the tunnel and is even noticed on the other side.

     

     

    Branch1:

     

    HQ:

    Not sure what else to do here. I checked all the logs - firewall, IPS, ATP - in the end I turned off intrusion prevenion and atp but that didnt help in any way.

    Do you have another approach?

    Thanks and best regards,

    Constantin

  • 0 in reply to Sophos User438

    I read right past the key log line last week, Constantin.  The error occurs immediately after initiate Main Mode.

    That tells me that the IP address on LTE_Backup is not the same as the one on the public interface of the Mikrotik.

    Try the following:

    1. In both branches, change the 'VPN ID type' to "IP address" and leave the 'VPN ID (optional)' empty.
    2. In the HQ, change the 'VPN ID type' to "IP address" and set the 'VPN ID (optional)' to the IP on the LTE_Backup interface.

    Any better luck with that?

    Cheers - Bob

     
    Sophos UTM Community Moderator
    Sophos Certified Architect - UTM
    Sophos Certified Engineer - XG
    Gold Solution Partner since 2005
    MediaSoft, Inc. USA
  • 0 in reply to BAlfson

    Hey Bob,

    sorry for the delay. The guy in the branch office went on holiday and turned his computer off. Phantastic. Drove there last night and turned it on again. Anyway, I was under the impression that the Mikrotik antenna would just "forward" the received public IP address when in passthrough mode.

    When I try to set the IP in the HQ I get the following message:

     

    Thanks and best regards,

    Constantin

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  • 0 in reply to BAlfson

    Hey Bob,

    sorry for the delay. The guy in the branch office went on holiday and turned his computer off. Phantastic. Drove there last night and turned it on again. Anyway, I was under the impression that the Mikrotik antenna would just "forward" the received public IP address when in passthrough mode.

    When I try to set the IP in the HQ I get the following message:

     

    Thanks and best regards,

    Constantin

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