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Sophos Endpoint Intercept X 2.0 impacting Performance - slow?

On a new software build of windows 10 on a T450 Lenovo, we found that at the end we installed Sophos Endpoint Intercept X 2.0 and it significantly slowed down the computer.  All aspects of the computer became slow.  On first bootup, connecting the Wifi - slow.  On login, the CPU would pin at 100% for long periods of time with high memory usage.  All applications would be slow to open, printing would be very slow. This is a new laptop i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD.

We would remove the Intercept X and the computer would return to normal operation.  Fast bootup, fast login, apps, etc...

Now for this customer, then use Trend Micro as their primary AV.  We have Sophos Intercept X added on for the extra protection. We did not have issues previously until the Intercept X Version went up to 2.0.  Has anyone else noticed a large performance hit with Intercept X 2.0?




[locked by: SupportFlo at 11:42 PM (GMT -7) on 12 Mar 2019]
  • We had on prem Sophos , just moved to Sophos Central in January , so I don’t have any experience with prior version of Intercept X. I just spoke to our Sophos SE. He is looking into it. I will give you an update if I hear back from the SE. I agree with Jak, they should have asked me to upload some logs.

    I disabled defender because I saw few discussion on this forum about defender might cause issue with Sophos AV.

    By the way intercept X might also be reason IE11 crashing in WIN 10. One of my coworker working with Microsoft on IE crashing on WIN 10, but I think they will end up pointing to Intercept X.

  • Have another client who is also experiencing the same IE11 random crashing :( 

    I also have the case escalated, so will provide feedback once I hear back.

  • Thanks Jak for pointing out the thread. I'll check it out

  • Did some more testing for boot times and opening programs (simple one like Task Manager)

     

    Brand new Lenovo T450 i5, 8 GB RAM 256 SSD

    Fresh build with no anti-virus: Boot time is 30 seconds. Task manager opens within 1 second. Nice and Fast.

    Sophos End Point Core Agent 2.0.2 Advanced only: Boot time is 1 min 27 seconds. Task manager opens in 6 seconds. Slower... but still ok.

    Sophos End Point Core Agent 2.0.2 Intercept X 2.0.1 only: Boot time is 2 mins and 50 seconds. Task manager opens in 15-20 seconds (varies). This is too slow to function for a user.

     

    This is not acceptable for an anti virus to reduce the speed of a computer back to pre-SSD speeds.  We did not have these issues as far as I was aware Pre Version 2.

  • Hi Stephen,

    Your testing is exactly what we are finding - in particular, boot time and as you mentioned, Task Manager taking 15 seconds to load. We also didn't have this issue prior to version 2.X.

    I have a case open with Sophos that has been escalated but haven't had much response back with regards to a fix.  I actually had to uninstall InterceptX 2.X so the machines can function again.

    Our client is also using OneDrive Files on Demand on Windows 10 and CPU consistently sits at 20% just for that process when InterceptX is running. 

    Anyone know if it's possible to revert to v1.X and not be forced to upgrade until these issues are resolved?

  • What policy options have you disabled to see what helps?

    Other than analysing a performance trace I would start with the following on a slow computer having disabled Tamper Protection:

    1. Rename 
    C:\Windows\System32\hmpalert.dll
    and
    C:\Windows\SysWOW64\hmpalert.dll
    to something like hmpalert.dll.rename and reboot, does it help speed things up?

    This event log might help: %SystemRoot%\System32\Winevt\Logs\Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance%4Operational.evtx show any change.
     
    If the above helps, then we know it is exploit mitigation.  We can then start to disable individual features withing Exploit mitigation.

    2.  Assuming the above doesn't help.  Maybe disable Cryptoguard in the threat protection policy.

    3.  Rename the HMPA driver "hmpalert.sys" under:
    \windows\system32\drivers\ to hmpalert.sys.rename and reboot.

    if the above 3 options do not help, then HMPA has been pretty much ruled out. 

    Can we start there before moving on to Sophos Anti-Virus?

    Regards,
    Jak

  • Hello, 

     

    We, as well as our clients are experiencing exactly the same issue with Intercept X, regardless of hardware configuration. Most of our customers run BitDefender Antivirus through SolarWinds Remote Monitoring and Management (earlier GFI Max). We've configured the BitDefender software to not use behavioral scanning, so that it doesn't crash with anti-crypto software like for example Intercept X. 

     

    Generally, we've always had reports of slowness after installing our security package, mostly though it was due to a combination of 4GB RAM and HDDs and generally age of the computers of our clients. The problem since 2.0 however, has appeared also on PCs with 16GB+ RAM, and top-shelf SSDs. 

     

    What our clients (and us as well) experience is basically this - Some programs just suddenly freezing out of nothing for like 3-10 seconds, some programs just crashing (IE for example, i know this is a known problem), boot time being extended horribly, domain-computers stuck on profile loading and general slowness and worse response time. ALL of this goes away after we uninstall Intercept X. 

     

    Now, i have read some threads - Most of the responses and "proposed solutions" or "temporary solutions" make no sense. It's all fine and sunshine to do for one or two PC, but once you get up in hundreds, maybe thousands, it's not so fun anymore. Solution for the IE crash problem seems to be to turn off Web Browser scanning - I mean, just that in itself is VERY dangerouns and stupid to do if you are concerned about security. How can Sophos, a company who prouds itself in selling security, even consider these to be viable temporary solutions? Jak suggests disabling functionality to test what is causing it - I suggest to Sophos to improve their logging, so that it isn't necessary for us to DISABLE FUNCTIONALITY to see what is causing trouble. 

     

    Today we've put in motion every contact we have at Sophos. We're also trying our feedback here on the forums. Let's see what it takes to get our issues sorted out. Response time for the support got better for a while, and now they have disallowed sending mails to support@sophos.com, and they ask us to make a ticket. Replies to those tickets seem to come much slower, in addition i have yet to find where i can track back my ticket, if i even can at all... 

  • Krystian Flemming said:

    Now, i have read some threads - Most of the responses and "proposed solutions" or "temporary solutions" make no sense. It's all fine and sunshine to do for one or two PC, but once you get up in hundreds, maybe thousands, it's not so fun anymore. Solution for the IE crash problem seems to be to turn off Web Browser scanning - I mean, just that in itself is VERY dangerouns and stupid to do if you are concerned about security. How can Sophos, a company who prouds itself in selling security, even consider these to be viable temporary solutions? Jak suggests disabling functionality to test what is causing it - I suggest to Sophos to improve their logging, so that it isn't necessary for us to DISABLE FUNCTIONALITY to see what is causing trouble. 

    I absolutely second that.

  • I agree with last 2 posts about "temporary solutions". What we need to do is contact all the Sophos Rep , SE we have and pressure Sophos to look in to the issue. I just spoke to our IT director, he doesn’t want to disable Intercept X or part of the option.