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Microsoft updates blocked despite being excluded from web filtering - am I fixing this right?

I've added every manner of exclusion for everything from microsoft.com and sub-domains as well as windowsupdate.com and subdomains but it wasn't prevent blocking updates.

After reading posts that seem to suggest this is an "undocumented feature" introduced in 9.6 I think (I'm on 9.7) and saying a Transparent Mode Skiplist had to be added, I did that.

Problem is I had to put my internal network on the source hosts/net skip list for it to work. Does that not mean I've effectively turned off web filtering for my internal network? If so, that seems to defeat the purpose. Is there a better way to do this? 



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  • You should have an exception already in place by default for UTM under Web Protection > Filtering Options.  

    You might have a problem with downloading if you have Country Blocking enabled, I've run into that before.  I even have a block list for the telemetry in my UTM, and I am not having any issues:

    vortex.data.microsoft.com
    vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
    telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
    telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
    oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
    sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    watson.telemetry.microsoft.com
    watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    redir.metaservices.microsoft.com
    choice.microsoft.com
    choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
    telemetry.microsoft.com
    watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com
    telemetry.appex.bing.net
    telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
    telemetry.appex.bing.net:443
    settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
    survey.watson.microsoft.com
    watson.live.com
    watson.microsoft.com
    statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com
    corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com
    compatexchange.cloudapp.net
    cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
    a-0001.a-msedge.net
    statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
    sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
    fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net
    diagnostics.support.microsoft.com
    corp.sts.microsoft.com
    statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com
    pre.footprintpredict.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com
    i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
    feedback.windows.com
    feedback.microsoft-hohm.com
    feedback.search.microsoft.com
    rad.msn.com
    preview.msn.com
    ad.doubleclick.net
    ads.msn.com
    ads1.msads.net
    ads1.msn.com
    a.ads1.msn.com
    a.ads2.msn.com
    adnexus.net
    adnxs.com
    aidps.atdmt.com
    apps.skype.com
    az361816.vo.msecnd.net
    az512334.vo.msecnd.net
    a.rad.msn.com
    a.ads2.msads.net
    ac3.msn.com
    aka-cdn-ns.adtech.de
    b.rad.msn.com
    b.ads2.msads.net
    b.ads1.msn.com
    bs.serving-sys.com
    c.msn.com
    cdn.atdmt.com
    cds26.ams9.msecn.net
    c.atdmt.com
    db3aqu.atdmt.com
    ec.atdmt.com
    flex.msn.com
    g.msn.com
    h1.msn.com
    live.rads.msn.com
    msntest.serving-sys.com
    m.adnxs.com
    m.hotmail.com
    pricelist.skype.com
    rad.live.com
    secure.flashtalking.com
    static.2mdn.net
    s.gateway.messenger.live.com
    secure.adnxs.com
    so.2mdn.net
    ui.skype.com
    www.msftncsi.com
    msftncsi.com
    view.atdmt.com
    msnbot-65-55-108-23.search.msn.com
    schemas.microsoft.akadns.net
    a-0002.a-msedge.net
    a-0003.a-msedge.net
    a-0004.a-msedge.net
    a-0005.a-msedge.net
    a-0006.a-msedge.net
    a-0007.a-msedge.net
    a-0008.a-msedge.net
    a-0009.a-msedge.net
    msedge.net
    a-msedge.net
    lb1.www.ms.akadns.net
    vortex-bn2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
    vortex-cy2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
    ssw.live.com

    OPNSense 64-bit | Intel Xeon 4-core v3 1225 3.20Ghz
    16GB Memory | 500GB SSD HDD | ATT Fiber 1GB
    (Former Sophos UTM Veteran, Former XG Rookie)

  • no wrong!
    ATTENTION!
    that is not an "and" but an "or" link within the transparent-mode-skiplist.
    The rules disable the proxy for all connections from "inside" (internal network) and create firewall rules for these connections.
    So all your users reach unfiltered to all destinations.

    the destination definitions don#t use domain-names .. .but the IP's behind the definition.
    Please check .. only the IP's within the definition (mouse-over) are used. 

    MS-updates are not so simple, because sometimes IP-Adresses are used - outside from every domain-definition.

    Amodin's exception list could work for the latest updates.


    Dirk

    Systema Gesellschaft für angewandte Datentechnik mbH  // Sophos Platinum Partner
    Sophos Solution Partner since 2003
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  • I had the following exceptions, but they didn't work:

    I also have the following, which itself should prevent block if I'm understanding things (and I may not bee since I'm new to sophos and it's not working)

    Despite all the above the web filtering was blocking http://au.download.microsoff.com, reason="range", which is why I added http to the existing exception but that didn't fix it.

    If I don't have the internal network in the skiplist, it doesn't work, but I did think it was an 'or", meaning I had just turned off web filtering.

    I added the telemetry sites (thanks) but the block isn't one any of those sites...

  • The exception I have in Web Protection doesn't have any 'and' statements in them at all, they are just the listed sites I have in my screenshot, and no filter action for Microsoft for mine.  The only thing that comes to mind off hand is Country Blocking, and I had to make an exception for a while because one of my computers was trying to go to China for updates.  Ultimately, redoing the computer stopped that, haha.

    Can you paste the log error from Web Protection logs?

    OPNSense 64-bit | Intel Xeon 4-core v3 1225 3.20Ghz
    16GB Memory | 500GB SSD HDD | ATT Fiber 1GB
    (Former Sophos UTM Veteran, Former XG Rookie)

  • the "and Going to websites tagged as..." was a suggestion I found searching in this forum to create a tag that points to microsoft.com and au.download.windowsupdate.com but as this isn't helping and is somewhat redundant anyway (already in at least 2 other places) I'll drop it.

    I did try turning country blocking off but it didn't fix the problem. I had a bunch of log entries in a notepad window ready to post but then took the route of asking about skiplist and didn't save them so I'll have to get some new ones.

    I'm going to start over and go back to basics capturing some fresh log entries to post here... tomorrow.... hopefully.

  • I don't have microsoft.com in the Skiplist, only the au FQDN which I bet i could have added to the Exception.

    My relevant Exception is also simple:

    Cheers - Bob
    PS Just curious, do you pronounce your name in French or in English?

     
    Sophos UTM Community Moderator
    Sophos Certified Architect - UTM
    Sophos Certified Engineer - XG
    Gold Solution Partner since 2005
    MediaSoft, Inc. USA
  • thanks. I'll mirror what you have.

    why wouldn't the windowsupdate.com exception work? I'm starting to lose a bit of confidence. I have problems with zoom too and exceptions for that aren't working as expected either.

    I pronounce my name in French, i.e. not "Gene" :-) 

  • Merci, Jean – maintenant, je connais aussi la bonne prononciation de Thibodeau. Flag ca

    For Zoom, check out: https://community.sophos.com/utm-firewall/f/web-protection-web-filtering-application-visibility-control/46292/business-video-conference-site-blocked

    Cheers - Bob

     
    Sophos UTM Community Moderator
    Sophos Certified Architect - UTM
    Sophos Certified Engineer - XG
    Gold Solution Partner since 2005
    MediaSoft, Inc. USA