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why? rejected: Spam (Confirmed)

Our appliance is rejecting email from 209.85.214.170.  It shows in mail manager as simply "rejected: Spam (confirmed)".

We are using the recommended blacklist checkbox, with additional servers specified as zen.spamhaus.org and b.barracudacentral.org.

I checked that IP against blacklists and cant find it listed. 

any ideas?


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  • Also, an email rejected from 209.85.161.170 was rejected at 11:20 (CST) this morning for Spam (confirmed), but a second one at 12:02 (CST) was delivered.

    Does this mean it was on a blacklist but isn't now?
  • Those look like gmail IPs, so they probably weren't blacklisted.  Post the relevant lines from today's SMTP log file, and maybe we can see why one was rejected.

    Cheers - Bob
     
    Sophos UTM Community Moderator
    Sophos Certified Architect - UTM
    Sophos Certified Engineer - XG
    Gold Solution Partner since 2005
    MediaSoft, Inc. USA
  • First half

    2012-07-06 11:30:35 SMTP connection from [207.8.156.51]:6575 (TCP/IP connection count = 1)
    2012:07:06-11:30:36 ex01 exim-in[11234]: 2012-07-06 11:30:36 [207.8.156.51] F= R= Verifying recipient address with callout
    2012:07:06-11:30:36 ex01 exim-in[11234]: 2012-07-06 11:30:36 1SnBQS-0002vC-1I ctasd reports 'Unknown' RefID:str=0001.0A090203.4FF712AC.008F,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0
    2012:07:06-11:30:36 ex01 exim-in[11234]: 2012-07-06 11:30:36 1SnBQS-0002vC-1I Greylisting: 207.8.156.51 is a known retry host
    2012:07:06-11:30:36 ex01 exim-in[11234]: 2012-07-06 11:30:36 1SnBQS-0002vC-1I REMOVED@meetingconsultants.com H=(mcweb1.meetingconsultants.com) [207.8.156.51]:6575 P=esmtp S=5066 id=OF836C2353.D342F4E8-ON85257A33.005B007E-85257A33.005AAF79@meetingconsultants.com
    2012:07:06-11:30:36 ex01 exim-in[11234]: 2012-07-06 11:30:36 SMTP connection from (mcweb1.meetingconsultants.com) [207.8.156.51]:6575 closed by QUIT
    2012:07:06-11:30:38 ex01 exim-in[6321]: 2012-07-06 11:30:38 SMTP connection from [209.85.214.170]:58038 (TCP/IP connection count = 1)
    2012:07:06-11:30:38 ex01 exim-in[6321]: 2012-07-06 11:30:38 SMTP connection from [209.85.214.170]:38291 (TCP/IP connection count = 2)
    2012:07:06-11:30:38 ex01 exim-in[11238]: 2012-07-06 11:30:38 H=mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]:58038 Warning: Exception matched: Skipping greylisting for this message
    2012:07:06-11:30:38 ex01 exim-in[11239]: 2012-07-06 11:30:38 H=mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]:38291 Warning: Exception matched: Skipping greylisting for this message
    2012:07:06-11:30:38 ex01 exim-in[11238]: 2012-07-06 11:30:38 [209.85.214.170] F= R= Verifying recipient address with callout
    2012:07:06-11:30:38 ex01 exim-in[11239]: 2012-07-06 11:30:38 [209.85.214.170] F= R= Verifying recipient address with callout
    2012:07:06-11:30:38 ex01 smtpd[6285]: QMGR[6285]: 1SnBQS-0002vC-1I moved to work queue
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vG-2A ctasd reports 'Confirmed' RefID:str=0001.0A090203.4FF712AF.0011,ss=4,re=0.000,vtr=str,vl=0,fgs=0
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vH-2A ctasd reports 'Confirmed' RefID:str=0001.0A090207.4FF712AF.001B,ss=4,re=0.000,vtr=str,vl=0,fgs=0
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vG-2A id="1003" severity="info" sys="SecureMail" sub="smtp" name="email rejected" srcip="209.85.214.170" from="REMOVED@THEIRDOMAIN.COM" to="REMOVED@OURDOMAIN.COM" subject="Fwd: REMOVED partner paperwork to REMOVED 3 in Houston\342\200\246trying again" queueid="1SnBQU-0002vG-2A" size="148859" reason="as" extra="confirmed"
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [1\42] 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vG-2A H=mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]:58038 F= rejected after DATA
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [2\42] Envelope-from: 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [3\42] Envelope-to: 
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [5\42]  by smtp01.OURDOMAIN.COM with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [6\42]  (Exim 4.76)
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [7\42]  (envelope-from )
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [8\42]  id 1SnBQU-0002vG-2A
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [9\42]  for REMOVED@OURDOMAIN.COM; Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:30:38 -0500
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [12\42]   X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090203.4FF712AF.0011,ss=4,re=0.000,vtr=str,vl=0,fgs=0
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [13\42]   X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [14\42]         d=google.com; s=20120113;
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [15\42]         h=from:content-type:subject[:D]ate:references:to:message-id
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [16\42]          :mime-version:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state;
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [17\42]         bh=HxqOdgnZ//S4tZxNBhU9EYZoDaBgWYsAWI0GxNx6P08=;
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [18\42]         b=Bc3qaYMz8p1CL5PSx/XCwHZw/9C9qz7iGjWfMN5YCBkVr6xjfuLZrsSeaIgRRNJ5kl
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vH-2A id="1003" severity="info" sys="SecureMail" sub="smtp" name="email rejected" srcip="209.85.214.170" from="REMOVED@THEIRDOMAIN.COM" to="REMOVED@OURDOMAIN.COM" subject="Fwd: REMOVED partner paperwork to REMOVED 3 in Houston\342\200\246trying again" queueid="1SnBQU-0002vH-2A" size="148867" reason="as" extra="confirmed"
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [1\42] 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vH-2A H=mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]:38291 F= rejected after DATA
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [2\42] Envelope-from: 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [3\42] Envelope-to: 
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [6\42]  (Exim 4.76)
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [7\42]  (envelope-from )
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [8\42]  id 1SnBQU-0002vH-2A
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [9\42]  for REMOVED@OURDOMAIN.COM; Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:30:38 -0500
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [12\42]   X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090207.4FF712AF.001B,ss=4,re=0.000,vtr=str,vl=0,fgs=0
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [13\42]   X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [14\42]         d=google.com; s=20120113;
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [15\42]         h=from:content-type:subject[:D]ate:references:to:message-id
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [16\42]          :mime-version:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state;
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [17\42]         bh=HxqOdgnZ//S4tZxNBhU9EYZoDaBgWYsAWI0GxNx6P08=;
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [18\42]         b=DNQj96kI8tFHPtUw8LwXRpaJwX5aVZc6YFSiQkgQhvwRb+HzSWZsDUh0lc1c66w/ls
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [19\42]          if/P42aG2a09oOSSOX0UpFZi2+d4YMOp9d6kbdCJR5zEaMYXIXas1WE1HurFcSx7HmqR
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [22\42]          IYoKrTwjOJZ2ljrn7PuzIW3Y2ema33HYEOeUabcF6Bc4IbbnUuWPpfAAwX8/mKaHVnU8
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [23\42]          15sw==
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [26\42] * Return-Path: 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [27\42] P Received: from [192.168.255.141] ([192.131.86.10])
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [28\42]         by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g8sm3438833obz.16.2012.07.06.09.30.36
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [29\42]         (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [30\42]         Fri, 06 Jul 2012 09:30:36 -0700 (PDT)
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [31\42] F From: REMOVED 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [32\42]   Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A49C8B9D-85FD-46A9-9764-613E8E9841A9"
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [33\42]   Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Fwd=3A_REMOVED_partner_paperwork_to_REMOVED_3_in_H?=
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [34\42]  =?windows-1252?Q?ouston=85trying_again?=
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [35\42]   Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 11:25:15 -0500
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [19\42]          zsXXeoJZpvv6qun5cxfKUd5hTqxE2sdLo12rF0+afu9uXv55LrTGTIHkicx3Tn4br6+O
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [20\42]          IAK4LuO2ZU81nDauPSIDeN0XXWGI3EvIeCm4QM+tgZEsJdOkcz8HVG7tLP75hiaI6gpS
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [22\42]          pNibRnoyhs9THBk76rr00BoP0lUovcTz+ole/h2unOpw+kPmZJEzpFOlLNICK2EBvxZC
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [23\42]          IXEg==
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [26\42] * Return-Path: 
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [28\42]         by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g8sm3438833obz.16.2012.07.06.09.30.36
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [29\42]         (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [30\42]         Fri, 06 Jul 2012 09:30:36 -0700 (PDT)
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [31\42] F From: REMOVED 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [32\42]   Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A49C8B9D-85FD-46A9-9764-613E8E9841A9"
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [33\42]   Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Fwd=3A_REMOVED_partner_paperwork_to_REMOVED_3_in_H?=
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [34\42]  =?windows-1252?Q?ouston=85trying_again?=
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [35\42]   Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 11:25:15 -0500
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [36\42]   References: 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [37\42] T To: REMOVED ,
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [38\42]  REMOVED@OURDOMAIN.COM
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [39\42] I Message-Id: 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [40\42]   Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278)
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: [41\42]   X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278)
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    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vG-2A SMTP connection from mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]:58038 closed by DROP in ACL
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [36\42]   References: 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [37\42] T To: REMOVED ,
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [38\42]  REMOVED@OURDOMAIN.COM
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [39\42] I Message-Id: 
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [40\42]   Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278)
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [41\42]   X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278)
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: [42/42]   X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmmgidzhotkXNd4JD2sEs85GRXhbDQ0CBHu9qzusCkfU/1UjZfiWGFFeoXke78BFfABzByE
    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11239]: 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vH-2A SMTP connection from mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]:38291 closed by DROP in ACL
  • rejected after DATA

    So, I think that means it got past the RBL testing and such.  There could have been a brief period where CommTouch thought that those IPs had bad reputations, but it seems more likly that the "pattern" of the header, including the originating IP, and content matched that of known spam.  I think that's what the RefID refers to in the following line:

    2012:07:06-11:30:39 ex01 exim-in[11238]: 2012-07-06 11:30:39 1SnBQU-0002vG-2A ctasd reports 'Confirmed' RefID:str=0001.0A090203.4FF712AF.0011,ss=4,re=0.00 0,vtr=str,vl=0,fgs=0


    If you know that the messages shouldn't have been rejected (a false positive), then this is a whole different kettle of fish!

    Cheers - Bob
     
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  • Yes, it's legitimate emails from a company that we haven't worked with before.  A couple from one of there employees came through, but all others from the other two senders at the company (coming from the same google servers) are still being blocked.  The only thing I can do is create an exemption for spam checking.  

    I'd like to be able to tell them why, or how to fix on their side.
  • if they are using google servers then it's nothing they can fix on their end EXCEPT is one of their boxes is infected with something..which will trigger spam blocking.  I would have those affected users/machines checked and cleaned for malware.

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  • I have had a couple of messages from aol email address that were legit mail but tagged as confirmed spam. In my case, the mail was a general FYI intended for multiple recipients in multiple companies.
  • no system is 100% effective..wish it was.  However sometimes a spammer uses one ip for a bit..then moves on..the reputation lists sometimes don't keep up..[:(]

    Owner:  Emmanuel Technology Consulting

    http://etc-md.com

    Former Sophos SG(Astaro) advocate/researcher/Silver Partner

    PfSense w/Suricata, ntopng, 

    Other addons to follow

  • I have a user querying why a mail which was sent to two people in the office was rejected by the spam filter for one user.  The relevant log line is this:

    to="***@***" subject="redacted" queueid="1TaImc-0003lY-M3" size="578" reason="as" extra=""

    Any place to find an explanation of this?

    Thanks