XG Firewall Home edition on Celeron J1900

Hi All

Apologies if this has been asked before

I have a qotom hardware with 4 Intel NICs running on Intel Celeron J1900 processor. I was running OPNSense on it for many months and wanted to try out the XG Home edition version 18.0.1-396. I tried to install it with both UEFI and Legacy boot and could only boot it with Legacy Boot option. 

Post the boot, after 2-3 minutes, it just hangs and I can't ping 172.16.16.16 and no response on the VGA console. What should I do to fix this issue

Following is the CPU details (installed Ubuntu 18.04 recently)

root@pghome-ubnt:~# lscpu
Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order: Little Endian
CPU(s): 4
On-line CPU(s) list: 0-3
Thread(s) per core: 1
Core(s) per socket: 4
Socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s): 1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 6
Model: 55
Model name: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU J1900 @ 1.99GHz
Stepping: 9
CPU MHz: 1332.800
CPU max MHz: 2415.7000
CPU min MHz: 1332.8000
BogoMIPS: 3998.40
Virtualization: VT-x
L1d cache: 24K
L1i cache: 32K
L2 cache: 1024K
NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0-3
Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology tsc_reliable nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer rdrand lahf_lm 3dnowprefetch epb pti ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid tsc_adjust smep erms dtherm ida arat md_clear



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[edited by: emmosophos at 12:19 AM (GMT -8) on 12 Feb 2021]
  • Well in theory yeah thats always the case but in practice the perf difference is negligible, but why i always prefer I5 or I7 quad cores for reasons you mentioned but what i was going for was if you can at least use dual core with HT on I3 because Cost reasons it will still be lot faster than Dual core without HT.  HT is designed for this reason...... 2 threads pass a single core at the same time so as say lag is in ms.... 

    You are correct in the case of HT on budget CPU's although dont thing Celerons or Atoms even have HT so Intel Cores with HT be fine......

    JK

  • Hi john_kenny,

    here is a quote for you about the value add of hyper threading so people can get a perspective of extra performance.

    "For a single socket system, hyper-threading can boost system performance by up to 30%."

    Ian

     
    V18.0.x - e3-1225v5 6gb ram with 4 ports - 20w. 
    3 AP55s and 2 APX120s having a holiday until software update is released.
    If a post solves your question use the 'This helped me' link.
  • As i mentioned I agree that your right but if it came to a price barrier with choice of dual core no HT or Dual core with HT we both know what wed take lol.....  Again as mentioned why myself I go I5 quad with HT or I7 Quad with HT, at bare min I5 Quad no HT......

    Was only trying to point out that HT should be a shopping trip target, no idea where that 30% came from but depending what Gen CPU you use HT varies in perf gain and again depends on whats using HT software wise......  I do however know from Experience I3 dual core with HT running XG home ed was far superior from XG mode ed on I3 dual core no HT.... Throughput was almost double (with all features enabled that is IPS mainly as you can tweak IPS via the console to use all 4 logical cores if you have too)

    Good talk tough but you get my point and I def get yours, top man.....

    So if you in market for decent XG home Ed performer at lowest price look for Intel core IX Dual core with HT but if you can stretch to the price Go Quad as rfcat_vk said....

    JK

  • Basically I wanted to know whether the hyperthreading cores count to the cores or not in the home edition.
    Does an i3-1100@3.6 GHz 4/8 Proc use 4 Processors or 4 Processors + Hyperthreading.

  • In that case yes it does XG home ed counts logical cores as its cores.......  So dual core with HT will show as 4 cores in XG

    Also I3-1100 is quad core with HT so 8 threads / logical cores, however you may as well disable HT on a quad core CPU i do myself as XG home ed is maxed out to 4 cores by licence

    JK

  • At one stage I was using an I3 quad core, but it got too hot so I migrated to the e3.

    Now I note that the newer i3s only come as 2 core or quad core and no hyperthraeding, run much cooler and as well cheaper then an e3

    Ian

     
    V18.0.x - e3-1225v5 6gb ram with 4 ports - 20w. 
    3 AP55s and 2 APX120s having a holiday until software update is released.
    If a post solves your question use the 'This helped me' link.
  • I would also recommend Xeon E3 CPU or some mobile i5 quad CPU...

    Im get used Supermicro CSE-512 + Supermicro X10SLM+-F + Intel E3-1220 v3 + 8GB DDR3 ECC RAM + 2x WD Black 500GB for 150€ and CPU is very cold(35&***;C). Additionaly Im put inside Intel X520-DA2(Dual 10Gbit SFP+) card and use one 10Gbit for local network(With different VLANS for GUEST, IOT, PRIVATE, MANAGEMENT, IPTV, VOIP zones)... For now it work ok and will see after trial expire if I will install XG Home on it and continue to use it or start looking for other solutions...

    But because I use XG at work and know what is capable Im think to implement it into my home network ...

    Sophos XG v18.0.x - Supermicro CSE-512, X10SLM+F, E3-1220v3 8GB RAM, Intel X520-DA2

  • Hi,

    it will work very well. I would remove one disk and please remember with that size disk installation will take some time for the full format to complete.

    ian

     
    V18.0.x - e3-1225v5 6gb ram with 4 ports - 20w. 
    3 AP55s and 2 APX120s having a holiday until software update is released.
    If a post solves your question use the 'This helped me' link.
  • I know this is a rather old post so I'm commenting for future reference, in case anyone else has the same processor.
    I've been using a similar machine with J1900 and 8GB of RAM for about one year now, while I can confirm the interface is indeed slow, unless you need a very responsive interface for testing or whatever, it shouldn't be a problem.
    I get around 30 Mbps in download and 15 in upload, and there's no difference in those speed between using and not using Sophos XG. I've also changed IPS search-method to hyperscan.
    Since you have trouble booting, make sure you have enough disk space and at least 4GB of ram, and Sophos XG was fully installed (in case trying formatting and reinstall XG again).
    Also try checking if cables are connected correctly (Port 2 for WAN and 1 for LAN) and that your pc has an IP in the 172.16.16.1/24 range