Sophos XG on NBN FTTN

Has anyone installed a Sophos XG onto a Fibre to the Node (FTTN) service on Australia's NBN? 

What was your experience like?

  • I am using FTTC 100/40. FTTN should not be any different to your old ADSL service except if you are lucky a lot faster.

    Also depends on who your RSP is?

    Ian

  • In reply to rfcat_vk:

    I agree. However I want to find out of anyone has had trouble with using the VDSL feature on the Sophos XG appliance rather than the performance of NBN in general. 

  • In reply to S248:

    Your modem should be handling the VDSL and handing you a 100/1000mbs interface?

    Ian

  • In reply to rfcat_vk:

    I don't think you need a modem if you have the correct VDSL card for the XG appliance. 

     

    Hoping someone with experience with this module can provide some feedback.

  • Using XG Firewalls with either Technicolor TG-789v3 modems (iiNet/Internode-supplied) in bridge mode or Draytek Vigor 130 modems (any ISP) without any problems. Added bonus of being able to create an alias interface on the WAN port to remotely log in to the modem via IP/Web interface and track VDSL stats.

    The only docs I can find on a DSL module for the Sophos XG is the SFP DSL module as described here - https://www.sophos.com/en-us/medialibrary/PDFs/documentation/sophos-sfp-dsl-module-mounting-instructions-rev3.pdf

    It doesn't look like it supports VDSL Vectoring - G.993.5 - which is a requirement for FTTN connectivity (full NBN VDSL requirements are found on pp.47-51 here - https://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/sfaa-wba2-product-catalogue-nebs-product-tech-spec-fttb-fttn_20150904-to-20151102.pdf).

    You'd need to contact Sophos to find out if the DSL module meets all the requirements as set out by the NBN in the above document.

  • In reply to ChrisKnight:

    Hi,

    I am looking to embark on a similar journey, which is connect to my FTTN connection NCD device using XG on whitebox Intel device.

    Do I need the modem, such as a Draytek 130 in Bridging Mode or the currently utilised Telstra Smart Modem gen 2 ?

    Can't I just put my Sophos XG in PPPoE mode and hook it up the NCD box ? Cheers

  • In reply to Babar Mughal:

    NCD device? Sounds like you've got an FTTC connection (lucky sod :-)).

    If so, the NCD is a Netcomm Wireless NDD-0300 unit, which acts as a VDSL modem that also provides power to the DPU out in the street.

    In which case you can plug the XG straight into it and use PPPoE (if that's how your RSP is providing your service), but you'll lose the auto-failover to 4G capability of the Telstra Smart Modem for both voice and data.

  • In reply to ChrisKnight:

    My XG connects directly to the NCD, the fail over feature was not of much value because it only gave internet not phone. Also XG setup for DHCP.

    If I loose NBN I setup hotspot on iphone.

    Ian

    fixed spelling mistakes.

  • NBN isn't explicitly noted, but there's a recent KB which states the module supports G.993.5:

    https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/133995

     

    If we get to the point of deployment, I'll update this and notify you of what we find.

  • In reply to JimmyH:

    Hi,

    FTTN uses an NCD which will provide you with an ethernet interface. You must use this device, that is your demarcation point.

    FTTC also uses an NCD but it provides remote powerfeed to the DPU and it also provides an ethernet interface.

    Ian

  • Just recently successfully setup the Sophos VDSL Module on a TPG NBN FTTN business connection (this uses statically set IP address/gateway on VLAN 100). It should work with PPPoE and IPoE as well. We used a Sophos XG 106, the VDSL module is port 4 in the Sophos GUI (the SFP slot is shared with Ethernet Port 4)

    The Sophos module does support the standards NBN requires.

    https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/133995

  • In reply to rfcat_vk:

    FTTN does not use an NCD. FTTN is presented to the customer as a 2 pair copper cable using an RJ11 phone line style cable.

  • In reply to srw:

    srw

    Just recently successfully setup the Sophos VDSL Module on a TPG NBN FTTN business connection (this uses statically set IP address/gateway on VLAN 100). It should work with PPPoE and IPoE as well. We used a Sophos XG 106, the VDSL module is port 4 in the Sophos GUI (the SFP slot is shared with Ethernet Port 4)

    The Sophos module does support the standards NBN requires.

    https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/133995

     

     

    Might I ask what you put for username and password under PPPoE setting to get your IPoE NBN FTTN w/ Vlan ID 100 working? We have an XG125 with a VDSL module, if I follow the instructions and change interface 9 for VDSL I have to choose connection style PPPoE, as there is no VDSL option under DHCP or Static.

  • In reply to mspeeee:

    Paul Sheahan

     

     
    srw

    Just recently successfully setup the Sophos VDSL Module on a TPG NBN FTTN business connection (this uses statically set IP address/gateway on VLAN 100). It should work with PPPoE and IPoE as well. We used a Sophos XG 106, the VDSL module is port 4 in the Sophos GUI (the SFP slot is shared with Ethernet Port 4)

    The Sophos module does support the standards NBN requires.

    https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/133995

     

     

     

     

    Might I ask what you put for username and password under PPPoE setting to get your IPoE NBN FTTN w/ Vlan ID 100 working? We have an XG125 with a VDSL module, if I follow the instructions and change interface 9 for VDSL I have to choose connection style PPPoE, as there is no VDSL option under DHCP or Static.

     





    Hi Paul, you don't need to set it to PPPoE to use VDSL (even though that's the only place you see the VDSL options).

    If your ISP is using IPOE (which is pretty much DhCP), on Port 4 (or whatever port is configured to be shared with SFP slot) add VLAN 100 to it by going Add Interface > Add VLAN > Port 4, set the VLAN ID to 100, and set the IP assignment to use DHCP.

    You may need to put a dummy IP address temporarily on port 4 first before it'll let you add a VLAN to it.

  • In reply to srw:

    Hi SRW,

    Thanks for coming back. Really appreciate it.

    Just to be clear, your saying that regardless of what the GUI says, by lacking a "Enable VDSL" option like that one your see under PPPoE, if I have an SFP module installed in the unit, and edit the appropriate interface, set it to DHCP with vLAN itll work correctly? Looking forward to testing tomorrow.

    Irritating I can't get that exact answer from Sophos partner support... You can see the response I got below.

     

    ----- Sophos Partner Support Response to my query on this issue

    -----Original Message-----
    From: support@sophos.com
    Sent: 2019-Sep-25 09:56 PM
    To: info@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
    Cc:
    Hello Paul,

    This is regarding your service request number 9249151

    We do have support for PPPoE, but unfortunately we don't support IPoE. You need to add the username and password to work.
    This can be a feature request and you can share your idea over https://ideas.sophos.com/ .

    Please let me know if you have any more query regarding the same.