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Site-to-Site RED tunnel not working

Hi,

I'm having the hardest time setting up a Site-to-Site RED tunnel between two SG230 appliances.

I'm trying to establish a tunnel between our main site (subnet 10.0.0.0/16) and our remote site (subnet 10.3.0.0/16).

I was following the steps from the tutotial located at

https://community.sophos.com/kb/en-us/120157

and was able to get the RED-tunnel up.

However, setting the static routes as described in the howto does not work unfortunately, no traffic seems to pass between both UTMs.

I've defined the reds2 Interface on the main site UTM with the ip adress 192.168.200.1 (We have another RED tunnel to a RED15 appliance at another branch Office, which is why the server Interface is named reds2) and the redc1 Interface on the remote site with the ip adress 192.168.200.2.

At this Point, shouldn't I be able to ping both RED endpoints from either UTM? At the Moment, I'm unable to get any pings across.

Any help would be appreciated!

Dominik



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  • Hi Dominik,

    To my knowledge, once a tunnel is setup, traffic between two UTMs becomes purely a matter of routing and firewall rules. Can you verify that you configured RED (Network) in the Gateway route definition instead of RED (Address).

    Thanks

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  • Hi,

    thanks for answering!

    I'm pretty sure it had something to do with routing, but I couldn't get it to work.

    I decided to scratch the RED setup and instead, went ahead and established a SSL-VPN Site-to-Site tunnel...lo and behold, everything worked right from the get-go.

    So I couldn't solve the original problem, but since Sohps UTM is crazy flexible you usually find a solution that works [:)]

    Thanks anyway!

  • Hi Emile,

    i followed exactly step by step your guide... Doesnt work...

    Site 1 - UTM at work (reds15 iface IP 10.30.1.1/30)

    Site 2 - UTM at home (redc15 iface IP 10.30.1.2/30)

     

    Site 1 one of LANs behind 10.10.1.0/24

    Site 2 LAN behind 192.168.6.0/24

     

    Static routing Site 1 - 192.168.6.0/24 - Gateway 10.30.1.2

    Static routing Site 2 - 10.10.1.0/24 - GW 10.30.1.1

     

    Firewall Site 1 - Site 2 subnet --any-- LAN 10.10.1.0/24 allow

    Firewall Site 2 - Site 1 subnet --any-- LAN 192.168.6.0/24 allow

    (also tested to add RED network into FW rule, same result)

     

    ICMP and PING allowed on both sites

     

    From UTM Tools at Site 2 im able to ping everything i want, including server in 10.10.1.0 subnet and also red interface 10.30.1.1

    From UTM Site 1 it is the same

     

    From client behind UTM Site 2 im able to ping only local red iface 10.30.1.2, nothing else

    From client behiind UTM Site 1 im able to ping only local red iface 10.30.1.1 but not remote 10.30.1.2 or any client...

    I think that RED interfaces should be normally pingable as they should act as directly connected...

    Nothing found in firewall log

    Where the hell can be problem?

     

    Thank you

  • Hi Vikino,

    That is really odd, could you provide the following screenshots from both UTMs:

    • Screenshot of RED Interfaces
    • Screenshot of Static Routes
    • Screenshot of Firewall Rules

    That would be fab, thanks.

    Emile

  • Site 1 acting as RED server:

    Site 2 client:

  • Hi Vikino,

    It looks like you are missing two firewall rules, do you have the two firewall rules:

    • Allowing LAN to Semily RED on Site 2
    • Red Semily to vitek_subnet2 on site1?

    Whats happening here is you're allowing the incoming traffic at each site but you're not actually allowing the initiating traffic which is behind the UTM, so a device in site2 could receive data from site 1, but then the UTM at site1 doesn't allow a device behind site1 out in the first place.

    Clone your rules but switch the sources and destinations and lets see what happens :)

    Emile

  • Done... And guess what? Still nothing :-)

    Btw. one of my firewall rules is LAN - any - any   allow, currently on both sites, because i dont know what else to try...and firewall is telling just nothing...just dropping some WAN traffic.

    One more thing im thinking about is that Site 1 subnet is behind RED50, but that should be not an issue, because from Site 2 UTM/Tools im able to ping that remote subnet 10.10.1.0/24 and servers in it...

  • Result...

    It is connected over 4G so the ping time is appropriate :-)

  • Just to make sure, you are using the UTM's as default gateway at both sides for the clients you are using in the ping test do you?


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  • Off course i do,you can see that on my last screenshot where is also ipconfig in window, im managing quite big company network so in basic settings there is absolutely no problem...

  • This is a long thread, so you all may well already have discussed the fact that ICMP/ping is not included in the "Any" service.  Do specific rules allowing ping between the subnets resolve this mystery?

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • Hi Bob,

    ping is included in fw rule,as it is on screenshots,also tried rule only for ping...

    To the hell with ping, but nothing is working, RDP, SSH,FTP...

    Bob should i be able to ping from client on both RED interfaces? I mean virtual iface on both sites...? The local one im able to ping,so internal routing works,but not remote...

    From UTM/Support/Tools/ping it works fine to ping everywhere...

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  • Hi Bob,

    ping is included in fw rule,as it is on screenshots,also tried rule only for ping...

    To the hell with ping, but nothing is working, RDP, SSH,FTP...

    Bob should i be able to ping from client on both RED interfaces? I mean virtual iface on both sites...? The local one im able to ping,so internal routing works,but not remote...

    From UTM/Support/Tools/ping it works fine to ping everywhere...

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  • I'll take a look at the pictures you posted, but, based on your last post, I wonder if there aren't routing problems outside the UTM.  What happens if you make a masq rule like 'Semily RED subnet -> LAN' in one UTM and a corresponding rule in the other?

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • Hi Bob,

    i tryied masq also like Semily subnet -> LAN and Semily subnet -> local RED interface...

    Nothing...

    Tracing route to 10.10.1.56 over a maximum of 30 hops

      1     2 ms     1 ms     3 ms  192.168.6.1
      2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      3     *        *        *     Request timed out.

  • You're using different network objects in the routes and firewall rules.  Is the problem that you need two firewall rules for traffic from the LAN to the remote subnet: one in the server side allowing traffic from the LAN to the remote subnet and one on the client that allows traffic from the server-side LAN to the client-side subnet.  In fact, before you do that, you should see blocks in the Firewall Live Log if this is the problem.

    If you still haven't solved the problem, Please make a diagram for us, including IPs and subnets.

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • I tryied so many combinations in firewall rules that i almost cant count them all.

    Im going to draw a diagram, by hand, ill post it in few minutes...

  • From UTM Client Tools im able to ping server 10.10.1.56 on RED 50 site...

    Also im able to ping 10.30.1.1

    but from client behind Client UTM im able to ping only 10.30.1.2, nothing else...

  • Vitek, I think my last comment about firewall rules was right.  I'll just use the numeric subnets as the network objects will have different names in each UTM:

    RED Client UTM:

    1. 192.168.6.0/24 -> Any&Ping -> 10.10.1.0/24 : Allow
    2. 10.10.1.0/24 -> Any&Ping -> 192.168.6.0/24 : Allow
    3. Gateway Route 10.10.1.0/24 via 10.30.1.1

    RED Server UTM:

    1. 192.168.6.0/24 -> Any&Ping -> 10.10.1.0/24 : Allow
    2. 10.10.1.0/24 -> Any&Ping -> 192.168.6.0/24 : Allow
    3. Gateway Route 192.168.6.0/24 via 10.30.1.2

    Any better luck now?

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • No...:-(

    Posting screenshots, tryied single FW rules as you mentioned, also combined rule as on screenshot...

    Client (192.168.6.0/24)

     

    Server

    One more thing...Tested from 3 PCs to avoid routing problems in client PC...

  • And there are no drops in the firewall or Intrusion Prevention log?  Are there any other static routes in place that might conflict with these - anything curious in the routing table on either UTM?

    Cheers - Bob

     
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  • Firewall is clear, no drops on those subnets, IPS is disabled on both sides.

    No other static routes, no policy routes, only standard internal routing and BGP routing, in BGP there is no conflicting subnet with any of subnets im using.

    If somebody want, we can do teamviewer session, or should i contact sophos support?

  • "IPS is disabled on both sides." - Sometimes, the problem is with UDP Anti-Flooding activity, and that's in the IPS log.  I don't expect that to be the issue, but it never hurts to look.

    Cheers - Bob

     
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